I’ll still take our chances with a strong Niño, we can score a good ice event or two, than that dumpster fire Nina we had last winter! Just the sheer amount of clouds and precip from the STJ, should argue for some BN months at some point this winter or right around normal, even without a lot of frigid cold getting down here!Other than Judah Cohen being wrong the last few winters with his largely Oct Siberian snowcover based winter AO forecasts as well most here never wanting a mild winter, can anyone think of any other reason his mild winter 2018-9 forecast is being tossed other than a cold Pioneer model forecast? Keep in mind El Nino is looking a good bit stronger vs how the weak that was earlier favored by many. (OHC is over +1.60 now and still rising.) Even a strong El Nino can no longer be dismissed as a reasonable possibility. And don't forget we've been in a warming world.