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Jessy89 said:
I agree that was Garbage. 20 seconds they could have at least wrestled a good match but that was Garbage Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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I was just noting to my brother that AEW squash matches are pretty few and far between. When we’re watching the intros and he says “this is going to be a squash match” because it is a newbie vs a champion or other popular wrestler, he more often than not ends up wrong. And he’s normally pretty good with his predictions.
 
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Jessy89 said:
Edge match was really good though!


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By the way, I just saw the match on Dynamite where Sting did a double scorpion death lock. (His first match on TNT in 20 years.) He seems like a man 10-15 years younger than his actual age! He really stands out.

 
That Goldberg match they tried do something with it. I don’t have a word to describe it lashley didn’t win clean


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Well, Brock is back to challenge Reigns now. I wonder if Cena is leaving again.
 
Jessy89 said:
It’s easy to see why people going to AEW


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For every good thing WWE does they also end up doing something dumb and frustrating. They, well I should say Vince, knows how to ruin a good thing, too.
 
Brick Tamland said:
For every good thing WWE does they also end up doing something dumb and frustrating. They, well I should say Vince, knows how to ruin a good thing, too.
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Do you think Goldberg legitimately got hurt? Or was it just a scripted injury to build a rematch? By the way was cool seeing Goldberg pull out some of his old moves!


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GaWx said:
I just saw the CM Punk return on DVR. It was unlike just about anything I’ve ever seen!
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I'm trying to get with some of the AEW excitement, but I'm not quite there yet. What's so awesome about it? The actual wrestling? Cause, yeah I agree thats pretty entertaining. I guess I'm kind of living in the past. I watched the CM punk return. And I guess for what's available today, he's pretty good. But I don't even know how you can compare that to this. I mean his pop was amazing, but this guy is off the charts.



And I can find a ton of other return videos that are super good. How do you guys see the AEW storylines compared to old WWF?
 
Rain Cold said:
I'm trying to get with some of the AEW excitement, but I'm not quite there yet. What's so awesome about it? The actual wrestling? Cause, yeah I agree thats pretty entertaining. I guess I'm kind of living in the past. I watched the CM punk return. And I guess for what's available today, he's pretty good. But I don't even know how you can compare that to this. I mean his pop was amazing, but this guy is off the charts.



And I can find a ton of other return videos that are super good. How do you guys see the AEW storylines compared to old WWF?
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Agreed, this is the first time I've seen this Rock return. Very impressive! I'm not saying the CM Punk return is the greatest return ever. But I am saying it is about as memorable as any I've seen for its own unique reasons, especially for how he repeatedly cuts down WWE without mentioning their name (whether or not you like his doing that) including his admitting he made a mistake in leaving ROH (whom he did mention) and the idea that wrestling ended for him when he left ROH for WWE around 2004-5. I mean, what a cutdown!

One great thing about AEW: more room given to the wrestlers for their own creativity vs WWE. There also seems to be more actual wrestling as a percentage of each show vs WWE though that could be my imagination. I also like how AEW ties together wrestling legends and history well with the younger wrestlers. Whether it be strictly in managerial roles (most) or not (Sting).

Actually, my favorite time in WWE/WWF was further back than what you like most there...I mean back to the1984-early 1990s when it was just plain funny to me.
 
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Rain Cold said:
I'm trying to get with some of the AEW excitement, but I'm not quite there yet. What's so awesome about it? The actual wrestling? Cause, yeah I agree thats pretty entertaining. I guess I'm kind of living in the past. I watched the CM punk return. And I guess for what's available today, he's pretty good. But I don't even know how you can compare that to this. I mean his pop was amazing, but this guy is off the charts.



And I can find a ton of other return videos that are super good. How do you guys see the AEW storylines compared to old WWF?
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I'd put the AEW stuff up there but not as good as old WWE.

My main issue with wrestling these days is the lack of character development and depth, the loss of the heel/face authority figure, and the loss of captivating story lines. I would love to watch but give me something to draw me in to watch and be excited for next week not just over scripted promos and people in the ring.
 
SD said:
I'd put the AEW stuff up there but not as good as old WWE.

My main issue with wrestling these days is the lack of character development and depth, the loss of the heel/face authority figure, and the loss of captivating story lines. I would love to watch but give me something to draw me in to watch and be excited for next week not just over scripted promos and people in the ring.
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Exactly. That's what I'm thinking as well. I am certainly impressed with wrestling matches, but you need the conflict, the story telling, the promos, the good vs. bad, the comedy, and the talent to bring all of those things to life.

Remember back in the day, even stupid tag teams like Too Cool would have their signature funny moves every match, like the worm, that drove the crowd wild. It seemed like everyone back then had something really dumb but really funny as part of their styles. It was just entertaining at about every level.
 
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GaWx said:
Agreed, this is the first time I've seen this Rock return. Very impressive! I'm not saying the CM Punk return is the greatest return ever. But I am saying it is about as memorable as any I've seen for its own unique reasons, especially for how he repeatedly cuts down WWE without mentioning their name (whether or not you like his doing that) including his admitting he made a mistake in leaving ROH (whom he did mention) and the idea that wrestling ended for him when he left ROH for WWE around 2004-5. I mean, what a cutdown!

One great thing about AEW: more room given to the wrestlers for their own creativity vs WWE. There also seems to be more actual wrestling as a percentage of each show vs WWE though that could be my imagination. I also like how AEW ties together wrestling legends and history well with the younger wrestlers. Whether it be strictly in managerial roles (most) or not (Sting).

Actually, my favorite time in WWE/WWF was further back than what you like most there...I mean back to the1984-early 1990s when it was just plain funny to me.
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Yes sir. Those old WWF days were awesome!!
 
Rain Cold said:
Exactly. That's what I'm thinking as well. I am certainly impressed with wrestling matches, but you need the conflict, the story telling, the promos, the good vs. bad, the comedy, and the talent to bring all of those things to life.
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I feel like AEW has all of that. That's why I enjoy it so much. To me is like a combo of the old WCW, WWF/WWE, and ECW days. They have a lot of great matches, promos, and the talent is given creative freedom with regards to the matches, promos, and storylines. I think that's the key in making it good. WWE is so scripted now, and it seems every time they actually have something good going they (meaning Vince) screws it up. WWE seems like a chore to watch now. I'm interested in seeing the Reigns and Brock feud, especially since Paul Heyman is with Reigns now. But that's about all I care about seeing now with WWE. I am excited to see AEW every week like I was back in the 90s when WWE and WCW were having their war.
 
Rain Cold said:
Exactly. That's what I'm thinking as well. I am certainly impressed with wrestling matches, but you need the conflict, the story telling, the promos, the good vs. bad, the comedy, and the talent to bring all of those things to life.

Remember back in the day, even stupid tag teams like Too Cool would have their signature funny moves every match, like the worm, that drove the crowd wild. It seemed like everyone back then had something really dumb but really funny as part of their styles. It was just entertaining at about every level.
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Yeah I mean the wrestling is fine its cool to see the athleticism but I can watch technical wrestling on acc network. Wrestling has always been good vs bad take that out of the equation and you have meh. Id rather watch 2 hours of stone cold trying to get back at vince for screwing him over than oldberg vs Bobby Lashley which is for no other reason than oldberg showed up
 
SD said:
Yeah I mean the wrestling is fine its cool to see the athleticism but I can watch technical wrestling on acc network. Wrestling has always been good vs bad take that out of the equation and you have meh. Id rather watch 2 hours of stone cold trying to get back at vince for screwing him over than oldberg vs Bobby Lashley which is for no other reason than oldberg showed up
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100%. It was so much fun. And there actually were plenty of great matches. I mean great ones. Iron man, hell in a cell, I quit, etc. But there were so many really good entertainers. Even the undercarders were fun to watch.
 
Fans were doing the yes chant to CM Punk and he said that's someone else's schtick, and they have to be a little more patient.
 
Brick Tamland said:
Fans were doing the yes chant to CM Punk and he said that's someone else's schtick, and they have to be a little more patient.
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Bryan Danielson will be there soon, lol.

I just hope AEW doesn't fall into the trap of hiring too much ex WWE talent and end up having money issues like WCW did.
TNA Impact started off strong with wrestlers like string, macho man, etc.. and we see how that ended up.
 
AEW Dynamite looks like it will have some good matches tonight. Looking forward to the PPV next Sunday.
 
Word is USA is not happy with WWE stacking Smackdown. It is the better of the two between it and Raw. I would love for USA to drop Raw. I always thought 3 hours was too long anyway. 3 hours would work if you just had one show a week and got rid of the brand split. But if you are going to split the roster, Raw needs to be 2 hours like Smackdown.
 
Great match between the Lucha Bros and Jurassic Express tonight on AEW. I was surprised to see the Lucha Bros get the win. They will face the Bucks in a steel cage at All Out for the tag titles. That should be a crazy match.
 
I can understand AEW going out and getting a few more older marquee names, but they have done a great job of building their own characters and selling them to the audience/viewers. This is the most excited I've been in a while for the art of professional wrestling. It seems almost like NWA in the earlier years I watched them. In late 84 is when I first tuned in to the sport, and the NWA had a very low budget, couldn't get the big names like Hogan/Andre the Giant, but they created big names with their incoming talent from other regional competitors/affiliates. The likes of JYD, Jimmy Valiant, Kamala, Shasta Whatley, Ole/Arn, Barry Windham, Ronnie Garvin were frequent with newcomers Sting/Luger. Humble beginnings for sure but an exciting organization, and just like the NWA at the time, I feel EAW has the right recipe for audience excitement and viewership.
 
AEW does such a better job of building storylines and building to matches than WWE now. WWE is kind of like the business that thinks it's too big to fail, so it just skates by resting on their laurels.
 
Awesome PPV and incredible ending. Thank you AEW for making PRO WRESTLING good and fun again.
 
Brick Tamland said:
Awesome PPV and incredible ending. Thank you AEW for making PRO WRESTLING good and fun again.
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AEW got the juice now, if it wasn’t obvious before, it’s obvious now. I think what you said is important, AEW is making Pro Wrestling FUN, watching WWE is a chore because they only have 5 good shows a year.
 
If you were a wrestling fan in the late 90s and early 2000s, I don't know how you can't be excited about AEW now. All Out was the best PPV in years, maybe one of the best of all time. I haven't felt this excited about wrestling since those days of the Monday night wars.
 
Can't wait for Dynamite tonight after All Out. Wondering what's next for Punk. Are they going to continue the MJF and Jericho feud? Who is next to challenge Miro? What happens now that the Lucha Bros have the tag titles? What do they have in store for Cole, and is Danielson going to challenge Omega next? I guess Baker and Soho are going to feud now. I'm not really a fan of Soho, though.
 
Brick Tamland said:
Can't wait for Dynamite tonight after All Out. Wondering what's next for Punk. Are they going to continue the MJF and Jericho feud? Who is next to challenge Miro? What happens now that the Lucha Bros have the tag titles? What do they have in store for Cole, and is Danielson going to challenge Omega next? I guess Baker and Soho are going to feud now. I'm not really a fan of Soho, though.
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No kidding they have done a good job at leaving you wondering what's next. I hope we get either the full heel turn from punk tonight or at least the start. Having him turn his back on the fans that waited so long for his return...chefs kiss. Could you imagine the nuclear heat of Danielson about to beat omega then punk hitting Danielson with the GTS.
 
Ok I'm going to watch this mess tonight and give it a fair, objective review.
 
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Ok so no promos to start. Goldust vs occult guy first match. Of course Goldust will lose.
 
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Woman ref seems pretty flexible
 
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