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It's official, and I'm sorry to say, but Biden's a mumbling, bumbling bunch of hot mess...It's agonizing to listen to him....Sheer torture......And he has a 50/50 chance right now of being our next President....Scary!!!!

Edit: I think he just called Anderson Cooper, "Doctor"!!!!

I really, really think he won’t be our next president. A pretty significant portion of the Dems really don’t like him and now with his sexual assault allegations and the way he kind of just... disappeared during this crisis, idk. Seems like we have 4 more years of our orange man
 
Meh... I wouldn't exactly call him an idiot, I mean I get where he is coming from and a 2.2 trillion (trillion!) stimulus package just passed without a lot of debate and w/o a roll call. He's right to want transparency and some sense of fiscal accountability but this just wasn't the time or the place to pick that fight. Another time would have been better. Many of us, myself included, are applauding this and loving the fact that we have checks coming our way but 2.2 trillion dollars is enough money for nearly 7k for every man, woman and child in the US. Which tells us the obvious, there ain't a pig in the whole world fatter then this pork loin of a bill. Lol

Totally get your point . But as you said another time would have been better . Only reason he did it was to look good for his constituents. He had no real hope of delaying the bill . Stimulus packages are always filled with pork and massive amounts of money going to big companies with little oversight. Unfortunately it will always be that way . To this guys point I agree they should have given more to the people that actually need it .

Sad part is it won’t be nearly enough and they will be back working on a new package before too long


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Totally get your point . But as you said another time would have been better . Only reason he did it was to look good for his constituents. He had no real hope of delaying the bill . Stimulus packages are always filled with pork and massive amounts of money going to big companies with little oversight. Unfortunately it will always be that way . To this guys point I agree they should have given more to the people that actually need it .

Sad part is it won’t be nearly enough and they will be back working on a new package before too long


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All these stimulus packages that continue to reward and bail out entities that both made poor choices and investments during good times and have heavy political influence are going to lead to two things: A greater resentment of the government and corporate America by the people and the complete demise of our economy.
 
All these stimulus packages that continue to reward and bail out entities that both made poor choices and investments during good times and have heavy political influence are going to lead to two things: A greater resentment of the government and corporate America by the people and the complete demise of our economy.

Totally agree . There should be 100 percent oversight anytime the country bails a company out . It’s really simple IMO . We can’t let these massive industries collapse because it would crush the economy if we did . How hard is it for politicians to understand when you give companies billions and billions of dollars that someone needs to be watching and accounting for every penny they spend and rules and regulations should always be included . Politics is a crappy game


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Totally agree . There should be 100 percent oversight anytime the country bails a company out . It’s really simple IMO . We can’t let these massive industries collapse because it would crush the economy if we did . How hard is it for politicians to understand when you give companies billions and billions of dollars that someone needs to be watching and accounting for every penny they spend and rules and regulations should always be included . Politics is a crappy game


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Opportunist feeding frenzy
 
Sis told me that Cheesecake Factory across nation are going to file bankruptcy due to not being able to pay rent. If true I’m sure of many to do so. As some economists predict we will have 30% unemployment if not higher. I even heard on Fox News that at least 2 more bail out bills will be coming. Predicted to be around total of 7-8 trillion when all is said and done and that is if over around May.
 
A sales rep for company I work for just emailed to let us know his wife is nurse at hospital outside Dallas. They lost their first patient to virus last night. A 50 yo very healthy lady. Had 17 yo son. She had been sick fo 3 weeks and went to ICU on ventilator. Complete organ failure. Their hospital is now being overrun with patients. They gave her the cocktail and did not help. I know this is in political thread but govt needs to put all money and efforts into vaccine. Social distancing will not work forever. Only way to get back to somewhat normal is a vaccine.
 

So he's going to break a law he just signed into being? How is that not some kind of auto impeachment and removal? How can this man be supported by anyone???

I don’t fault the president at all for wanting to distribute funds where it’s needed himself. He’s the president he knows how and where funds are needed most. But of course haters are gonna hate. If you don’t like Trump just go ahead not accept those big $1200 checks.


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I don’t fault the president at all for wanting to distribute funds where it’s needed himself. He’s the president he knows how and where funds are needed most. But of course haters are gonna hate. If you don’t like Trump just go ahead not accept those big $1200 checks.


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Your not understanding what this is about.....this is not about Trump being able to spend funds where he wants too, its about Congress and the American people being able to know how and where that money was spent. The bill specifically states there will be Special Inspector General for Pandemic Recovery, this person will audit and account for the 500 billion....do you think that is a bad thing?

What Trump is literally saying is he wants to spend that money however he wants too and then Trump decides whether or not his administration tell Congress where or how he spent it.....
 
Your not understanding what this is about.....this is not about Trump being able to spend funds where he wants too, its about Congress and the American people being able to know how and where that money was spent. The bill specifically states there will be Special Inspector General for Pandemic Recovery, this person will audit and account for the 500 billion....do you think that is a bad thing?

What Trump is literally saying is he wants to spend that money however he wants too and then Trump decides whether or not his administration tell Congress where or how he spent it.....

Considering pelosi is the speaker of the house. I couldn’t imagine why he tell her congress anything. Because even if he uses it to help companies. Congress would criticize and complain


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I don’t fault the president at all for wanting to distribute funds where it’s needed himself. He’s the president he knows how and where funds are needed most. But of course haters are gonna hate. If you don’t like Trump just go ahead not accept those big $1200 checks.


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Oh I see. You truly don't give a damn about laws. This isn't the nation for you. Maybe you should leave.
Oh wait, people like you voted to elect that guy, I guess this is a lawless nation now. I suppose that I and others who believe in the rule of law are the ones who need to leave.
 
Oh I see. You truly don't give a damn about laws. This isn't the nation for you. Maybe you should leave.
Oh wait, people like you voted to elect that guy, I guess this is a lawless nation now. I suppose that I and others who believe in the rule of law are the ones who need to leave.

I believe in the laws that are not stupid. This law is stupid


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If this is verified that he isnt allowing aid to these states he needs to be removed from office period. If the vendors come forth with evidence of a federal govt refusing aid to states they dont like trump should hang for it in November.

 
If this is verified that he isnt allowing aid to these states he needs to be removed from office period. If the vendors come forth with evidence of a federal govt refusing aid to states they dont like trump should hang for it in November.


He did release money though he signed a emergency declaration


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If this is verified that he isnt allowing aid to these states he needs to be removed from office period. If the vendors come forth with evidence of a federal govt refusing aid to states they dont like trump should hang for it in November.


He won’t be removed. They’ve already gone down that road. It is up to Michigan residents to vote for Trump’s opponent. With Biden not looking too good to me recently, that may not be easy.

I’d much rather have Pence by the way.
 
He won’t be removed. They’ve already gone down that road. It is up to Michigan residents to vote for Trump’s opponent. With Biden not looking too good to me recently, that may not be easy.

At that point I'd hope the 25th amendment would be an option.

Just imagine the consequences if this is true and nothing is done to change it.

2021 major hurricane hits coastal NC......president biden says well those counties voted for Trump......nope no FEMA aid.

We cant stand for these kids of precedents to be set.
 
At that point I'd hope the 25th amendment would be an option.

Just imagine the consequences if this is true and nothing is done to change it.

2021 major hurricane hits coastal NC......president biden says well those counties voted for Trump......nope no FEMA aid.

We cant stand for these kids of precedents to be set.

It doesn’t matter that you and I can’t stand these kind of precedents, he’s not going to be removed via impeachment or 25th Amendment. It would have happened by now.

And especially now that we’re in a war. It ain’t going to happen.
 
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Sure but can’t prove it’s real news either. Sources are not always accurate


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You're hearing from the governors own mouth. She is taking a huge political gamble to be so vocally lying about something. This isn't some unnamed source.
 
You're hearing from the governors own mouth. She is taking a huge political gamble to be so vocally lying about something. This isn't some unnamed source.

She’s a Democratic means she hates Trump. Don’t you think it may just be possible she’s lying because she hates Trump?


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She’s a Democratic means she hates Trump. Don’t you think it may just be possible she’s lying because she hates Trump?


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What does she have to gain by lying. It is also clear in my original post that it needs verifying so no I didnt take it at face value although I'd tend to believe her over trump who is a habitual liar.
 
What does she have to gain by lying. It is also clear in my original post that it needs verifying so no I didnt take it at face value although I'd tend to believe her over trump who is a habitual liar.

Votes is what has to gain.


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yahoo/huff post are particularly awesome sources for the truth; almost as good as Maggie Haberman from the nyt..

Here's the content of one of her tweets quoting Trump
“I want them to be appreciative,” the president says of governors who are criticizing the federal response."

Here's what he actually said:
"I want them to be appreciative. I don't want them to say things that aren't true. I want them to be appreciative. We've done a great job. And I'm not talking about me. I'm talking about Mike Pence, the task force, I'm talking about FEMA, the Army Corps of Engineers.”

Gotta love it all, haters gonna hate, TDS is real..
 
But we have trumps own worlds saying he tells Pence not to call her.

That’s because he doesn’t work with people unwilling to work with him. Once again he signed a emergency declaration for Michigan


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yahoo/huff post are particularly awesome sources for the truth; almost as good as Maggie Haberman from the nyt..

Here's the content of one of her tweets quoting Trump
“I want them to be appreciative,” the president says of governors who are criticizing the federal response."

Here's what he actually said:
"I want them to be appreciative. I don't want them to say things that aren't true. I want them to be appreciative. We've done a great job. And I'm not talking about me. I'm talking about Mike Pence, the task force, I'm talking about FEMA, the Army Corps of Engineers.”

Gotta love it all, haters gonna hate, TDS is real..

TDS?

TDS is the burying of ones head in the sand. Its saying you dont support trump grabbing women by the crotch but then voting for him. Its ignoring or accepting all the unethical things he does. Its forgetting what principles one had just before they marked the circle next to his name.

TDS is something trumps followers have not people who are against him.
 
That’s because he doesn’t work with people unwilling to work with him. Once again he signed a emergency declaration for Michigan


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This is a national emergency. Go back to my example of next time a disaster hits and a Democrats withholds aid to a red state or counties. I bet if you were on the receiving end of that you'd call that democrat a traitor and unamerican.
 
This is a national emergency. Go back to my example of next time a disaster hits and a Democrats withholds aid to a red state or counties. I bet if you were on the receiving end of that you'd call that democrat a traitor and unamerican.

I don’t believe anything will be withheld from Michigan. That’s my thoughts


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Here's another good one, Joe Biden on the
Kavanaugh accusations:

“For a woman to come forward in the glaring lights of focus, nationally, you’ve got to start off with the presumption that at least the essence of what she’s talking about is real,” said Biden during the confirmation hearings for Supreme Court Justice Brett Kavanaugh, who faced accusations that as a teenager he had assaulted a woman at a party.

His campaign now regarding the woman who alleges he assaulted her:

“Women have a right to tell their story, and reporters have an obligation to rigorously vet those claims. We encourage them to do so, because these accusations are false,” Kate Bedingfield, deputy campaign manager and communications director for the Biden campaign, said in a statement to Fox News


Hmmmmm, don't recall any "mainstream" media outlets vetting Kavanaugh's accuser or even suggesting they should actually do their job, nope, they were much more interested in destroying Kavanaugh, can't imagine why...
 
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