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Pattern Nippy November

Well at least one GEFS member isn’t against the GFS (didn’t know which thread to put this in)E6162136-E2D0-4517-989B-26C807D48C76.jpeg
 
Weird emotionals over 200hr plus maps... is there a APA term designated for this condition? I think this forum is a safe space for all of us sufferers of whatever this is called..
 
Weird thing is, this "potential" winterstorm isn't over 200 hrs out its actually well under 200 hrs. Storm or not, the signal is there for very cold air and wintry weather somewhere in the upper/deep south. Could this be a year where us weenies receive our dream? I dont care what climo says, if it wants to be very cold and snowy in November, then it will happen. I'll take what ever I can get any time of the year.
 
accu35 said:
Weird thing is, this "potential" winterstorm isn't over 200 hrs out its actually well under 200 hrs. Storm or not, the signal is there for very cold air and wintry weather somewhere in the upper/deep south. Could this be a year where us weenies receive our dream? I dont care what climo says, if it wants to be very cold and snowy in November, then it will happen. I'll take what ever I can get any time of the year.
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Agreed things can happen at early times.. now am I skeptical yes but this is very much inside 200 hours so heck I’ll even take some token sleet pellets
 
accu35 said:
Weird thing is, this "potential" winterstorm isn't over 200 hrs out its actually well under 200 hrs. Storm or not, the signal is there for very cold air and wintry weather somewhere in the upper/deep south. Could this be a year where us weenies receive our dream? I dont care what climo says, if it wants to be very cold and snowy in November, then it will happen. I'll take what ever I can get any time of the year.
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I definitely can agree with this i mean look at the positive side of it models are already giving us cold air and possible wintry mischief so early and its still fall...
 
Lets not forget guys this year is a whole new year and you know anything can happen so i wouldn't let my guard down this year on any models
 
Interestingly enough the 00z Euro look much better than the 12z run with less interaction with the NS. Looking a bit closer to the GFS.
Not saying anything is going to happen. I’m just making notes.
Edit: It looks good until a certain point. Much better at 00z we just need to slow down the SS or speed up the NS.
 
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The 6z GFS refuses to back off. Normally, it'd be easy to discount this solution, but given it's actually inside day 5-6 and there's at least been some consistency, plus the fv3 absolutely nailed the Dec 8-9 storm when no other modeling showed it (then preceded to suck the rest of the winter), maybe there's something to this.

I'm ready for my cold rain
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Webberweather53 said:
The 6z GFS refuses to back off. Normally, it'd be easy to discount this solution, but given it's actually inside day 5-6 and there's at least been some consistency, plus the fv3 absolutely nailed the Dec 8-9 storm when no other modeling showed it (then preceded to suck the rest of the winter), maybe there's something to this.

I'm ready for my cold rain
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Of course we have to be pessimistic, but things like this have happened in November. All we need is the cold and moisture. Looking at the 6z GFS the cold air is available, but it has to feed in (during the event) from the north (as CAD). Dew points get into the teens in north VA and into the 20s in N. NC. From past storms, we would really like to see the lower dew points feed in earlier to get a good storm. As is, I would hope (at best) for a mixed event with maybe some accumulations of snow/ice on car tops. **if this setup occurs.
 
Gonna be some prolific Lake Effect snow totals out of this pattern. I so want to go on a road trip, lol


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From RAH:
The next significant system is expected to move into and across the area late week. While medium range models have trended overall wetter with the system, timing and strength differences of both a southern stream wave and northern stream wave continue to make the forecast late week low confidence. For now will go with chance pops late week, with temps well below normal by Friday. Dry conditions are expected to return by Saturday, though some of the coldest air of the fall is expected to move into the area by next weekend. Low temps by Saturday morning may fall into the 20s in spots, with generally freezing temps expected areawide.
 
Webberweather53 said:
The 6z GFS refuses to back off. Normally, it'd be easy to discount this solution, but given it's actually inside day 5-6 and there's at least been some consistency, plus the fv3 absolutely nailed the Dec 8-9 storm when no other modeling showed it (then preceded to suck the rest of the winter), maybe there's something to this.

I'm ready for my cold rain
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Got to be legit. Look at SE Wake lol
 
Biggest “issue” as always is HP strength. The HP isn’t very strong to begin with and it is weakening rapidly throughout the storm. CAD signal is very marginal. Given the FV3 has a known cold bias this marginal setup is very very iffy on it.

really need to see the gfs beef up this HP substantially.

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So our coldest model showing a CAD this weak is not a super confident sign. It’s totally possible! But fv3 again on an island all alone.
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