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Pattern Januworry

SD said:
488 over the great lakes this is basically the opposite of the December patternView attachment 102191
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This is without snow on the ground in most of the South either. Would be one of the most prolific arctic outbreaks ever.

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Wild Weather Monger said:
One of these days, a map like that will have an 84 hour timestamp instead of 384. Nevertheless, it is a beaut.
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Hey the good thing is this upcoming pattern could deliver it. I think it's overdone but the overnight ensembles hinted at renewed cold and potential decadal cold after D10. Should be fun to watch pan out
 
SD said:
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Been trying to keep quiet and let the pros talk during these exciting times. But this post caught my attention because every time somebody posts one of these nowadays, it seems to be having 2-3 more snowy members. I like where we're headed
 
iGRXY said:
Need a good storm to come before that massive attic outbreak. We’re not snowing or getting anything with that except cracked lips and ashy skin. Now if we can sneak a good storm in here right before we can get a good shot of keeping snow or ice on the ground for a while.
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We'll probably get a good storm as the pattern starts to relax.
 
LovingGulfLows said:
This is without snow on the ground in most of the South either. Would be one of the most prolific arctic outbreaks ever.

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Mid to late January of 1934 and 1972, both similarly strengthed La Niña analogs that had mild Decembers, both had a similar very cold (single digits at ATL/RDU) Arctic airmass plunge into the SE fwiw followed by cold February.
 
GaWx said:
Mid to late January of 1934 and 1972, both similarly strengthed La Niña analogs that had mild Decembers, both had a similar very cold (single digits at ATL/RDU) Arctic airmass plunge into the SE fwiw followed by cold February.
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But did they produce Snow? That’s the 1 billion dollar question.
 
Myfrotho704_ said:
Little bit of a signal around this timeframe, at H5 look isn’t terrible, some hints of some southern stream energy and confluence/energy in the east/NEView attachment 102199View attachment 102200
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Ever so slightly we get more wintry members but still not enough to hang the hat on anything .. at least we know it an work out .. let’s keep grinding out the details in the days to come
 
Meh, hopefully something like the 12z/18z gefs from yesterday comes back because to me, this ain’t what I’m looking for, I’m looking for a event under 32 degrees and a cold pattern, not a average pattern and a event at 36/37 degrees which the gefs has gone to after the cold shot early next week ??‍♂️ I’m tired of marginal patterns atp 805355F1-2FB8-4B59-BAA9-F0737FCFE396.png4AA23A65-3C07-4639-89B3-E74E1F0771CD.png378EB72E-F848-4AA1-AFDA-0256DDAD7262.png
 
NoSnowATL said:
But did they produce Snow? That’s the 1 billion dollar question.
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Not accompanying the single digit cold. But there was ZR soon following it from NE GA to NC and the very cold February of 1934 had multiple wintry including a big snow/ice around the 10th that later brought ice as far down as N Florida. Feb of 1972 was cold as well as very icey in especially NC. A mild February is far from a certainty and I’d argue not necessarily likely.
 
GaWx said:
Not accompanying the single digit cold. But there was ZR soon following it from NE GA to NC and the very cold February of 1934 had multiple wintry including a big snow/ice around the 10th that later brought ice as far down as N Florida. Feb of 1972 was cold as well as very icey in especially NC. A mild February is far from a certainty and I’d argue not necessarily likely.
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I knew you'd have specifics! And of course the next year in 73 was the blizzard!
 
Not to rain on parades but While jan 1985 would be great, there was a strong SSW/PV split in Jan 1985 which brought down extreme cold, this year the stratospheric polar vortex looks strong other maybe a few reflective events/weak stretching events, 810FF9D8-D1F9-42F0-9388-F513AAADC278.png01B4DE3C-1526-4128-93D7-E839D3AD42D9.pngE9C1EF25-19AF-4F87-8CAA-AD0BC9485C3A.png
 
I put literally 0 stock in a 384hr GFS. If I had to bet my life savings I would be nothing even remotely close to this comes to fruition. I hope the GFS proves me wrong but I'm not currently willing to get my hopes up about this lol. It would be incredible though. I was too young to really remember some of the extreme cold we saw in the mid-to-late 80s in my area.
 
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