Euro at 144 pretty much the same as the 0z GFS... now the funhouse mirror games begin: 
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Pattern January 2020 - Operation Thaw Alaska
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John1122
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Euro is much warmer in the East through 210 vs the GFS but colder upstream in southern Canada. Both have the cutter at that hour that helps pull down the cold in its wake on the GFS. The GFS had a 1045 north of the Lakes pressing cold into the Ohio valley and Carolinas that led to frozen. Not there on the Euro and temps in the Eastern GLs are 30 degrees warmer on the Euro.
ain't this a giant B:
Fascinating how they're so different though in such a short time (relatively speaking)...
John1122
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Euro = not pretty at 240 in the Pacific. World apart from the GFS and Canadian.
My gut feeling is the Euro op is wrong, or slow/delayed. We'll see what the EPS brings. And tomorrow, etc.
Six Mile Wx
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The Euro starts diverging from the GFS solution even before day 5. The euro doesn’t seem to be following its own trends.
John1122
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Oddly, the GFS seems to follow the earlier EPS and the Euro was closer to the GEFS. I wouldn't be surprised if the Euro had the MJO slowing in 5 or something.
John1122
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EPS is indeed quite a bit different than the op late run. Much more ridging further west and much colder here.
Yeah luckily the EPS does not support the rouge euro solution .. sometimes you just get spoof operational runs .. how the cookie crumbles sometimes .. now we must wait for 12z
Six Mile Wx
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Time to see if the GFS can support its last run
Most of the time it’s delayed not denied. And I hope no one is sold on any specific storm let’s just get a major cold air mass first.
Six Mile Wx
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whatalife
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Here are days 10-15 on the current ensemble runs...
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Wow talk about some big dogs on the latest 06z GEFS ... quite a few big dogs actually ... this up come pattern is the one to produce one the question is if we can line it up right ... I say if we do get a storm it’s going to be an all in type of deal for sure
Snowfall mean just beefed up quite a bit in the GEFS as well
I’m very hopeful for the cold making its first appearance. But I believe the GFS is being very weenie with some of these storms that may feature very little snow..better chance of cold rain/mix or dry. Let’s just hope one winter storm occurs for all (likely not gonna be Florida or coastal Carolinas).
Mean is the highest I’ve seen the entire winter! Member 6 Lol.
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ATLwxfan
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Our big daddy got shredded on this run. Was really hoping to get that first cold push in before next weekend but delay delay delay
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ATLwxfan
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Mean is the highest I’ve seen the entire winter! Member 6 Lol.
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This right here may be the best evidence we’ve had in a year that something is cooking.
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