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Wintry 1/7/17-1/10/17 Winter Storm

The Euro's not there yet but it's improving IMO if my short term memory hasn't also started to fail with my long term memory.
 
stormcentral said:
HixsonWX said:
stormcentral said:
Lol WTVC channel 9 calling for a dusting KCHA & SE TN ?

Unfortunately, that is what most of the guidance I've seen is pointing to... Even the Euro is not showing the "up to" 3 inches that WRCB is saying. I'm hoping the Hi-Res models save us, but right now I'm having a hard time getting on board with anyone that  says more than an inch for CHA. Obviously, things can still change and I hope they do!

EDIT: out of the American models I've seen so far, the NAM 4km is the big winner for Chattanooga with a whopping 0.725"...

6 members of the GEFS mean give us snow.

Yeah, there are ensemble members giving us love and I like to see them, but still, look at the ensemble mean and the op.

I'm waiting to see the 12z Euro map for CHA...

Just saw it. That doesn't get us over the 1" hump, either...
 
Not a forecast from me, but 2-4 inches between modeling/blends still looks possible for CAE. I may be a bit generous with that idea though.

Wherever the heavy precipitation with just the right temperatures set up will be important between 0.5-1inch of actual snow and heavier amounts from there. I feel a sweet spot could actually be around Florence. Still a bit early and the models are still shifting temps & moisture axis.
 
Have a Euro precip map for southeast please?
 
Webberweather53 said:
Phew that was a close for RDU lol...

Fine line for sure but somebody close to that line is going to get dumped on....  but when isn't NC on the dividing line?
 
Storm5 said:
precip was a little further north this run I'm my area . I'll take since the euro has been the furthest south and shutting us out run after run

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Maybe I'm wrong but looked like qpf overall shifted ever so slightly SE but b/c it was colder some areas still end up with great totals
 
GFS has been rock solid over the past several runs and the other models have not been so consistent. After seeing today's EURO 12Z run and the waffling CMC/NAM I have a lot more confidence in the GFS/GEFS solutions. Low may tick farther NW and as others have stated on this board, I think QPF will be a little more robust and the precip shield will be a little more N/NW when all said and done. The cold temps will be there - not too worried about that. I live in Atlanta and I see 1-3" around the city, heavier amounts on south and east sides of town. Not out of the realm of possibility that KATL could get 5/6".

My odds: 70% chance ATL gets 1-3"
30% chance ATL gets more 3-6"
10% chance we get nothing (could be too warm or moisture stays to our south).

FFC should issue a WSW tomorrow based on the information available as of now. It could still change, but trends as we get closer are encouraging.
 
Euro is being just as consistent as the GFS. GFS moves a little north, Euro moves a little south. Both seem to be expanding the precip, too. Meet in the middle and I'll be happy.
 
Who will be sleeping tonight.
 
Storm5 said:
precip was a little further north this run I'm my area . I'll take since the euro has been the furthest south and shutting us out run after run

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When I toggle between hours 84 (12z) and 96 (0Z) - I see less total precip for JeffCo on north in AL.  What am I not looking at that shows us with a tick "up" in precip?  I see the shift south but it appears to me that the precip heads south as well?
 
Posted elsewhere so will link here. Great precip through this area, just a bit warm:

Today's 12z On the Left. Last night's 00z on the Right.

 
Para GFS looks like the Euro.. not good
 
Xtreme weather said:
Have a Euro precip map for southeast please?
12z...heaviest axis is a litter north of 00z
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Shawn said:
Posted elsewhere so will link here.  Great precip through this area, just a bit warm:

Today's 12z On the Left.  Last night's 00z on the Right.


Yea even the local people have said temps shouldn't be an issue. I hope they are right.
 
SnowFlowXXL said:
Para GFS looks like the Euro.. not good
it looked like that last night ....Nothing new

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I'm not sleeping tonight,. I'm off of work for 2 days
 
Seriously? You can't make this stuff up. If anything the trends (minus the gfs) have been much less aggressive for the last 24 hrs. But yeah sure.

 
Storm5 said:
SnowFlowXXL said:
Para GFS looks like the Euro.. not good
it looked like that last night ....Nothing new

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yea my bad, for some reason i thought it was a decent hit but appears it wasn't
 
Much less snow for mountains/foothills of NC. Hoping for a dusting here! I don't think 2" is possible on the euro imo.
 
lol pretty much no precip at all in NW GA on the Euro
 
I'll take my inch of para snow
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Storm5 said:
Xtreme weather said:
Have a Euro precip map for southeast please?
12z...heaviest axis is a litter north of 00z



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Thanks
 
FLO said:
Shawn said:
Posted elsewhere so will link here.  Great precip through this area, just a bit warm:

Today's 12z On the Left.  Last night's 00z on the Right.


Yea even the local people have said temps shouldn't be an issue. I hope they are right.

Find it hard to believe we get over an inch of liquid as all snow.  The para gfs from 06z shows around half an inch as snow for a chunk of us.. but..  The cut off line of snow is getting very close though.  Here:


 
The 6Z Para GFS is the furthest north para run in quite awhile.
 
Couple degrees away from a legit big dog
 
Shawn said:
FLO said:
Shawn said:
Posted elsewhere so will link here.  Great precip through this area, just a bit warm:

Today's 12z On the Left.  Last night's 00z on the Right.


Yea even the local people have said temps shouldn't be an issue. I hope they are right.

Find it hard to believe we get over an inch of liquid as all snow.  The para gfs from 06z shows around half an inch as snow for a chunk of us.. but..  The cut off line of snow is getting very close though.  Here:



Yea I am losing faith. CAE is always on the wrong side of that snow line, so I expect nothing less.
 
accu35 said:
I'm not sleeping tonight,. I'm off of work for 2 days


You in Clarke County?


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Storm5 said:
SnowFlowXXL said:
Para GFS looks like the Euro.. not good
it looked like that last night ....Nothing new

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There is a significant NW shift for NC between the 0z and 6z para run though
 
FLO said:
Shawn said:
FLO said:
Shawn said:
Posted elsewhere so will link here.  Great precip through this area, just a bit warm:

Today's 12z On the Left.  Last night's 00z on the Right.


Yea even the local people have said temps shouldn't be an issue. I hope they are right.

Find it hard to believe we get over an inch of liquid as all snow.  The para gfs from 06z shows around half an inch as snow for a chunk of us.. but..  The cut off line of snow is getting very close though.  Here:



Yea I am losing faith. CAE is always on the wrong side of that snow line, so I expect nothing less.

Well, temps may not be handled completely right by these models so there's that.  CAE seemed confident last night that the guidance was a bit warm.  I've learned to use Newberry as a dividing line over the years.  Sadly.
 
ForsythSnow said:
I am loving that little spot of 3" or so in my area lol. Better run I believe.

lol HA you and me both little strip that goes just straight into our area!
 
Shawn said:
FLO said:
Shawn said:
FLO said:
Shawn said:
Posted elsewhere so will link here.  Great precip through this area, just a bit warm:

Today's 12z On the Left.  Last night's 00z on the Right.


Yea even the local people have said temps shouldn't be an issue. I hope they are right.

Find it hard to believe we get over an inch of liquid as all snow.  The para gfs from 06z shows around half an inch as snow for a chunk of us.. but..  The cut off line of snow is getting very close though.  Here:



Yea I am losing faith. CAE is always on the wrong side of that snow line, so I expect nothing less.

Well, temps may not be handled completely right by these models so there's that.  CAE seemed confident last night that the guidance was a bit warm.  I've learned to use Newberry as a dividing line over the years.  Sadly.

Newberry almost always hits the jackpot.
 
Unless you are in NC/SC/extreme eastern GA the actual low track doesn't matter. For instance a hundred miles of either way won't change much.  For Us in MS, AL and the rest of GA this is a overrunning, SW flow set up which is clearly visible from the QPF patterns. We need the wave to dig more and establish a stronger SW flow while having a deeper push of cold air. Unless it really amps WAA or CAA from the system itself will be minimal for us at least.
 
outside of NC, georgia and alabama really want something like the gfs/gefs to verify . all models work for NC

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Shawn said:
Posted elsewhere so will link here.  Great precip through this area, just a bit warm:

Today's 12z On the Left.  Last night's 00z on the Right.

Awesome. Ty for that. Ya we don't get Nada but have the best moisture. It's the way it goes. Lmao
 
Some tale tale signs places like Mount Airy, NC and western Wilkesboro could be blanked with nothing. Just cold and dry.
 
Storm5 said:
ARCC said:
Unless you are in NC/SC/extreme eastern GA. For Us in MS, AL and the rest of GA this is a overrunning, SW flow set up which is clearly visible from the QPF patterns. We need the wave to dig more and establish a stronger SW flow while having a deeper push of cold air. Unless it really amps WAA or CAA from the system itself will be minimal for us at least.
outside of NC, georgia and alabama really want  something like the gfs/gefs to verify . all models work for NC  

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  Thanks.....these are the comments that are most helpful to a novice like me :)
 
I think the GFS/gefs will be right, because now the Euro seems to be caving in towards the GFS. Can't wait for 18z
 
I'll take the 12z runs for AL again dusting to 1" looks good be happy lol
 
OWilkesboroDude said:
Some tale tale signs places like Mount Airy, NC and western Wilkesboro could be blanked with nothing. Just cold and dry.

I know man how sad
 
Xtreme weather said:
I'll take the 12z runs for AL again dusting to 1" looks good be happy lol

Are you still in Calhoun?
 
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