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Misc Winter Whamby 2020, a New Decade

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Snowless & Grumpy said:
Don't you think you live in the wrong part of the country to love snow and hate ridges?
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I’m not like you. I don’t think negative thoughts all the time..... and to answer your question nope. It’ll snow again down here and when it does it’ll be magical
 
LovesSnowHatesRidges said:
I’m not like you. I don’t think negative thoughts all the time..... and to answer your question nope. It’ll snow again down here and when it does it’ll be magical
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It's not being negative unfortunately, it's being a realist. I can be optimistic if I need to be. So far this winter has provided nothing of the sort. But I don't think optimism or pessimism either one will matter much. The future weather pattern is already written, we just can't predict it.
 
It's not pessimism folks! It's what me and many others believe. This winter is on life support! I don't need a model to tell me the base state this winter isn't favorable for us. Winter isn't a transition season like spring and fall and the pattern usually keeps repeating. For as many years as I've been watching weather very few have a large scale pattern flip mid winter. Winters like this we have to score when the base state relaxes and reshuffles. So far we havent and as strong as the STJ is it's really hurting getting enough cold down here when the pattern does relax like now. I'll keep watching and hoping to score a storm like everyone else. But a sustained cold and stormy pattern is very unlikely and I wouldn't be surprised one but to see a return of the western trough in February.
 
LovesSnowHatesRidges said:
Wait. You are right. Winter is over south of Tennessee and North Carolina.
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Dude nobody said it wouldn't snow. But a snowstorm doesn't make or break a winter. There is virtually ZERO chance this winter as a whole finishes anything other than a torch regardless of what Feb does. I don't know what's so hard to accept about that.
 
Snowless & Grumpy said:
Dude nobody said it wouldn't snow. But a snowstorm doesn't make or break a winter. There is virtually ZERO chance this winter as a whole finishes anything other than a torch regardless of what Feb does. I don't know what's so hard to accept about that.
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Okay dude. Whatever you say
 
LovesSnowHatesRidges said:
Lol some of y’all crack me up..... y’all will be complaining in the summer wanting winter back when it’s 95-100 degrees every day
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Nope. I love going to the pool. I hope for hot and dry summer. Pool time, greens will be fast and beer is better tasting when it hot. I want snow as well but some of us believe we won’t see snow. We can agree to disagree. It’s ok.


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NoSnowATL said:
Nope. I love going to the pool. I hope for hot and dry summer. Pool time, greens will be fast and beer is better tasting when it hot. I want snow as well but some of us believe we won’t see snow. We can agree to disagree. It’s ok.


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I like playing golf but I sure don’t like playing when it’s 95 degrees all the time.......
 
LovesSnowHatesRidges said:
Okay dude. Whatever you say
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I'm not trying to argue here. I get you're an optimist but if you're optimistic about a cold winter then it just isn't happening. Just look at the numbers. We would have to go in the deep freeze now and stay there until the end of February to have a chance and there is no sign of that happening.

Regardless of what March does it's not a winter month. The snowfall would go on the season but winter is DJF and the last what 9 or 10 have been AN? And that's not just a coincidence in my opinion. Its obvious something has changed with our climate. And whether its cyclical or not is another debate for a different thread. If me always saying warmth wins out everytime offends anyone then maybe they should ignore me.
 
Snowless & Grumpy said:
I'm not trying to argue here. I get you're an optimist but if you're optimistic about a cold winter then it just isn't happening. Just look at the numbers. We would have to go in the deep freeze now and stay there until the end of February to have a chance and there is no sign of that happening.

Regardless of what March does it's not a winter month. The snowfall would go on the season but winter is DJF and the last what 9 or 10 have been AN? And that's not just a coincidence in my opinion. Its obvious something has changed with our climate. And whether its cyclical or not is another debate for a different thread. If me always saying warmth wins out everytime offends anyone then maybe they should ignore me.
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I don’t think I’ve said anything about it being a cold winter...... I just think it’s a little premature to say a season is over when said season doesn’t end until a certain date.
 
LovesSnowHatesRidges said:
I don’t think I’ve said anything about it being a cold winter...... I just think it’s a little premature to say a season is over when said season doesn’t end until a certain date.
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Maybe maybe not. I guess it depends on how one defines winter. If you define it by whether you receive snow or not then yes its premature. Me personally I define it by my temp averages and snowfall. I've only punted the temp part of it. It's very possible this winter wont be an F. But it's also impossible for it to be an A also just because of temps.
 
Nice to see wrap around moisture with no cold air...what a joke! If this doesn't trend cold, this storm is over for snow for us down in the Southeast. I'm so annoyed about this!
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WxWatch said:
Nice to see wrap around moisture with no cold air...what a joke! If this doesn't trend cold, this storm is over for snow for us down in the Southeast. I'm so annoyed about this!
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I'm not even going to get mad about that. We knew next weekend was too warm with no source of cold air. No surprise at all there. Now when we get to Feb and the decent pattern being modeled doesn't come to fruition and the long range looks like crap I'm going to be a little irritated by then.
 
Snowless & Grumpy said:
Maybe maybe not. I guess it depends on how one defines winter. If you define it by whether you receive snow or not then yes its premature. Me personally I define it by my temp averages and snowfall. I've only punted the temp part of it. It's very possible this winter wont be an F. But it's also impossible for it to be an A also just because of temps.
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Okay
 
WxWatch said:
Nice to see wrap around moisture with no cold air...what a joke! If this doesn't trend cold, this storm is over for snow for us down in the Southeast. I'm so annoyed about this!
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February 7-8th is the one I have slight interest in. But as of right now chances are very small 20-30%. I’d say
 
S.E. R.I.D.G.E. This crappy pattern is NEVERENDING
 

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Snowless & Grumpy said:
I'm not even going to get mad about that. We knew next weekend was too warm with no source of cold air. No surprise at all there. Now when we get to Feb and the decent pattern being modeled doesn't come to fruition and the long range looks like crap I'm going to be a little irritated by then.
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I'm annoyed about it cause it's another Gulf low with no cold air. The GFS showed this exact storm being a massive snow storm last week and this is what we're going to get? A perfect low track with wrap around cold rain instead? Maybe if we do the reverse psychological thing (being negative) maybe something will give. I'd rather take 60° with rain instead of getting a low track like that with no cold air.

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WxWatch said:
I'm annoyed about it cause it's another Gulf low with no cold air. The GFS showed this exact storm being a massive snow storm last week and this is what we're going to get? A perfect low track with wrap around cold rain instead? Maybe if we do the reverse psychological thing (being negative) maybe something will give. I'd rather take 60° with rain instead of getting a low track like that with no cold air.

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Being negative does no good man
 
WxWatch said:
I'm annoyed about it cause it's another Gulf low with no cold air. The GFS showed this exact storm being a massive snow storm last week and this is what we're going to get? A perfect low track with wrap around cold rain instead? Maybe if we do the reverse psychological thing (being negative) maybe something will give. I'd rather take 60° with rain instead of getting a low track like that with no cold air.

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Its annoying yes. But the teles never supported those crazy storms it was showing a week ago. There is simply not much cold anywhere in the country to tap. Was hoping we were headed to better times in February but the ensemble took a step back today as well.
 
Frankly, I never bought into the late month being THE deal thing and no no no, forget everything else. It was something in freaking fantasy land and there was nothing scientific from that basis. If that was actually going to work, it was going to come from a closed off ULL. Instead it might be a big phased bomb where its probably just upslope that will be of interest but people west of I-77 in WNC might have reason to hold interest.

If anything becomes IT, we're gonna have to wait and see how this works itself out, and how the pacific works itself out. February is more likely to have something, if anything.
 
GEFS has been consistent with this. I'll take it tbh
 

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Snowless & Grumpy said:
Its annoying yes. But the teles never supported those crazy storms it was showing a week ago. There is simply not much cold anywhere in the country to tap. Was hoping we were headed to better times in February but the ensemble took a step back today as well.
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@LovesSnowHatesRidges what could possibly prompt you to post that smart ass laughing reaction to this post other than trying to irritate me? There is nothing negative in here and everything posted is 100% fact and and anyone with a clue on here would agree on that. Please ignore me and I will do the same to you.
 
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