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Matthew70 said:
grabien.com

Tucker: Coronavirus Is a ‘Disaster’ for the Old and Sick

‘Now our helplessly elderly are locked in stinking cells cut off from the only ones who love them’
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Spot on. We allow our elders and loved ones to be treated like prisoners and left to be alone and die alone. Makes me sick our govt. and health care system is ok with this.
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Wait. You have been advocating reopening by protecting/isolating the vulnerable elderly.....now it makes you sick to isolate them......you cant make this stuff up.
 
Shaggy said:
Wait. You have been advocating reopening by protecting/isolating the vulnerable elderly.....now it makes you sick to isolate them......you cant make this stuff up.
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Oh good grief. Yes I have advocated to open up and continue to say we should but I also did say to protect those that are high risk. To let those elders that are able to make the choice or their families make the choice if they want to see their children or grandchildren or parents. I also said to separate the side Of nursing homes or hospitals to accommodate those that do not from the ones that do. Stop and think about that post. Without family being able to check on their loved ones this is what is happening I’m sure much more than we know. No one is watching over the elders. Does anyone really trust to leave your loved ones in assisted living or nursing homes without seeing them and being able to check on them? Does it not bother you that several politicians removed their loved ones from their nursing homes before this virus really started? So shaggy are you saying you are ok with people or loved ones dying alone? You’re ok with no one checking on the ones they loved? So you would have no issue with someone you loved dying by themselves? That’s the problem with those that scream wear mask and stay home and people are dying. They have no solutions and only see cases and deaths about this virus. Like nothing else is happening. That outside the virus it’s utopia. Blinded they are.
 
Matthew70 said:
Oh good grief. Yes I have advocated to open up and continue to say we should but I also did say to protect those that are high risk. To let those elders that are able to make the choice or their families make the choice if they want to see their children or grandchildren or parents. I also said to separate the side Of nursing homes or hospitals to accommodate those that do not from the ones that do. Stop and think about that post. Without family being able to check on their loved ones this is what is happening I’m sure much more than we know. No one is watching over the elders. Does anyone really trust to leave your loved ones in assisted living or nursing homes without seeing them and being able to check on them? Does it not bother you that several politicians removed their loved ones from their nursing homes before this virus really started? So shaggy are you saying you are ok with people or loved ones dying alone? You’re ok with no one checking on the ones they loved? So you would have no issue with someone you loved dying by themselves? That’s the problem with those that scream wear mask and stay home and people are dying. They have no solutions and only see cases and deaths about this virus. Like nothing else is happening. That outside the virus it’s utopia. Blinded they are.
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Solutions? In what world does separating "sides" in nursing homes or hospitals even cross a mind as plausible?

There are no good scenarios in this. Theres not. There are going to be no winners just lots of losers. Balancing the losing it what matters. Save as many lives as possible and balance that with opening up as much as is safe in a calculated safe manner.

There is no good outcome to this virus.
 
Shaggy said:
Solutions? In what world does separating "sides" in nursing homes or hospitals even cross a mind as plausible?

There are no good scenarios in this. Theres not. There are going to be no winners just lots of losers. Balancing the losing it what matters. Save as many lives as possible and balance that with opening up as much as is safe in a calculated safe manner.

There is no good outcome to this virus.
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I have said that and agree that we all lose but you did not answer my questions. It is plausible this solution. If they can build temporary hospitals then separate them to what I suggested. Those that chose to live and take the chance seeing loved ones to those that are wanting to be lonely and possibly die lonely. Same with schools. Those parents that don’t want their kids in school keep them home. Those parents that they and their kids want to go to school. Then let them. Same with stadiums. Those that want to go let them. Simple. Where there is a will there is a way. Also does your saving lives include those committing suicide from depression or homelessness or poverty? Or is it only ones from the virus that matter?
 
Matthew70 said:
I have said that and agree that we all lose but you did not answer my questions. It is plausible this solution. If they can build temporary hospitals then separate them to what I suggested. Those that chose to live and take the chance seeing loved ones to those that are wanting to be lonely and possibly die lonely. Simple. Where there is a will there is a way. Also does your saving lives include those committing suicide from depression or homelessness or poverty? Or is it only ones from the virus that matter?
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So build temporary hospitals and nursing homes for every facility to have 2 sides one for isolation and one for opening. You're talking about thousands of hospitals and nursing homes. It is not plausible period. It is not a workable solutuon.

I hope nobody feels the need to commit suicide but that is a voluntary and unnecessary decision. Of course those lives matter but simply reopening isnt going to save them. Without help those people will continue down a path until they find another reason.
 
Shaggy said:
So build temporary hospitals and nursing homes for every facility to have 2 sides one for isolation and one for opening. You're talking about thousands of hospitals and nursing homes. It is not plausible period. It is not a workable solutuon.

I hope nobody feels the need to commit suicide but that is a voluntary and unnecessary decision. Of course those lives matter but simply reopening isnt going to save them. Without help those people will continue down a path until they find another reason.
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That's not true. If money is their problem, then going back to work will solve their problem and it will prevent that person from doing harm to themselves. You can't just say, "Oh well, they would have committed suicide anyway" That's ridiculous and you should be ashamed.
 
Matthew70 said:
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This is unrelated to political talk but I'm starting to kind of doubt we see baseball at all, and although some of the reason will be due to safety reasons, the true reason will be because they couldn't come to terms about the money, similar to 1994, which is going to tick off a lot of people all over again. I think baseball is 50/50 at best at this moment and if they do end up failing to come to terms, there is a non-zero chance that it bleeds over and continues to be an issue next year.

The good news is I'm not bearish about other sports at least at this moment. I can tell NASCAR's return has gone well, and it seems like there will be nothing stopping the PGA Tour returning in a couple weeks. The NHL is voting about continuing their season soon, the NBA's "we'll play at Disney idea" has been picking up steam, Major League Soccer is going to vote on having a midsummer tournament as their return, and as I have been posting recently, college football has some positive momentum.
 
GeorgiaGirl said:
This is unrelated to political talk but I'm starting to kind of doubt we see baseball at all, and although some of the reason will be due to safety reasons, the true reason will be because they couldn't come to terms about the money, similar to 1994, which is going to tick off a lot of people all over again. I think baseball is 50/50 at best at this moment and if they do end up failing to come to terms, there is a non-zero chance that it bleeds over and continues to be an issue next year.

The good news is I'm not bearish about other sports at least at this moment. I can tell NASCAR's return has gone well, and it seems like there will be nothing stopping the PGA Tour returning in a couple weeks. The NHL is voting about continuing their season soon, the NBA's "we'll play at Disney idea" has been picking up steam, Major League Soccer is going to vote on having a midsummer tournament as their return, and as I have been posting recently, college football has some positive momentum.
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Baseball is spoiled rich brats. Never cared much for it. Especially the little cry baby saying he’s not risking his life for only 25% of 7 million. He’s a pitcher! 90 feet away from other players. His chance of dying is like .02%. He has more chance of a baseball hitting him than the virus. But that is his choice and I respect that. He just needs to stay home and not get much salary. Even though he’s already been paid over a million for not one game. They need to shorten season anyway. Bring on Soccer & Football please!
 
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‘Bullhorn From The BS Bully Pulpit’: Chris Cuomo Calls Trump A ‘Demagogue’ For Church Reopening Position

CNN host Chris Cuomo criticized President Donald Trump as a
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So being black means you’re a Democrat and being a Christian means you’re a Republican. ??‍♂️ No matter what color or faith one is. This is not about politics. This is about helping people being able to cope with the stress, loneliness, deaths from this virus. If it helps people find strength then let people worship. They are old enough to make their own choices of where they want to worship or meditate. Whether it be at home or at a place.
 
The heat is on Cuomo for how he handled the nursing homes... and now he’s trying to blame Trump for it. This article clearly shows how he’s lying and went far beyond the CDC guidelines established. Worth a read.

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NY Gov. Andrew Cuomo Tries to Blame Trump for Nursing Home Death Scandal Cuomo Caused

Former NY Governor George Pataki: 'Cuomo's effort to blame Trump for his disastrous nursing home policies is complete nonsense. It was Cuomo’s DOH directive for nursing homes to take infected people.'
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snowlover91 said:
The heat is on Cuomo for how he handled the nursing homes... and now he’s trying to blame Trump for it. This article clearly shows how he’s lying and went far beyond the CDC guidelines established. Worth a read.

legalinsurrection.com

NY Gov. Andrew Cuomo Tries to Blame Trump for Nursing Home Death Scandal Cuomo Caused

Former NY Governor George Pataki: 'Cuomo's effort to blame Trump for his disastrous nursing home policies is complete nonsense. It was Cuomo’s DOH directive for nursing homes to take infected people.'
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It's about time how many dead later is this while he was blaming Trump on TV everyday
 
Cad Wedge NC said:
That's not true. If money is their problem, then going back to work will solve their problem and it will prevent that person from doing harm to themselves. You can't just say, "Oh well, they would have committed suicide anyway" That's ridiculous and you should be ashamed.
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Suicide is largely a symptom of larger underlying mental issues that's all in saying. Its like the article of the guy attacking the couple with a machete. Sure he can say it's over lockdowns but his issues run far deeper than that.
 
Shaggy said:
Suicide is largely a symptom of larger underlying mental issues that's all in saying. Its like the article of the guy attacking the couple with a machete. Sure he can say it's over lockdowns but his issues run far deeper than that.
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That is not true at all. People can get very depressed quickly. Especially when they lose their jobs or lose their homes. Not every suicide means underlying mental issues. Situations can bring on hopelessness quickly. Like teens that commit suicide from bullying or losing a gf of bf. Parents getting divorced. So no not every suicide is a mental case.
 
Shaggy said:
Trumps push and talking like this drug was a cure is flat out 100% pure negligence. He should be mocked for his ignorance.

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A massive study found that coronavirus patients who took the malaria drug touted by Trump had a higher risk of death

We just got more evidence that the antimalarial medications touted by President Donald Trump aren't a good bet for treating the novel coronavirus.
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Maybe and maybe not. Yes it appears it does not work but many others say it does. I think it may work with certain people and others it may not. Just like anti depressants. Some work on others but not on everyone. Just like foods. Some people are allergic to like peanuts but others are not.
 
Matthew70 said:
Maybe and maybe not. Yes it appears it does not work but many others say it does. I think it may work with certain people and others it may not. Just like anti depressants. Some work on others but not on everyone. Just like foods. Some people are allergic to like peanuts but others are not.
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I would agree that medicines in general will have varying benefits/ side effects from person to person. However in this study it was found this drug increased chances of death in general among those taking it for covid. Trump needs to stop bringing this drig up and focus on other drugs that other countries are talking about and trying to research those.

Cut the losses on this miracle cure trump loves and try the next one. The key is dont stop trying to find that one drug that may work.
 
Shaggy said:
Trumps push and talking like this drug was a cure is flat out 100% pure negligence. He should be mocked for his ignorance.

www.yahoo.com

A massive study found that coronavirus patients who took the malaria drug touted by Trump had a higher risk of death

We just got more evidence that the antimalarial medications touted by President Donald Trump aren't a good bet for treating the novel coronavirus.
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I wouldn't say that just yet.


Highlighting the studies on prophylaxis of SARS-CoV-2 infection, the advisory stated that a retrospective case-control analysis at ICMR has found that there is a significant dose-response relationship between the number of prophylactic doses taken and frequency of occurrence of SARSCoV-2 infection in symptomatic healthcare workers who were tested for coronavirus infection.


Another investigation from three central government hospitals in New Delhi indicates that amongst healthcare workers involved in Covid-19 care, those on HCQ prophylaxis were less likely to develop SARS-CoV-2 infection, compared to those who were not on it.


The benefit was less pronounced in healthcare workers caring for a general patient population.


Besides, an observational prospective study of 334 healthcare workers at AIIMS, out of which 248 took HCQ prophylaxis in New Delhi also showed that those taking HCQ prophylaxis had lower incidence of SARS-CoV-2 infection than those not taking it.
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How is liquor stores essential? Abortions? Any restaurant? Any store beside groceries.
 
Matthew70 said:

How is liquor stores essential? Abortions? Any restaurant? Any store beside groceries.
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Your video wont play for me so I googled it and I dont see anything in his released statement saying worship isnt essential? Wished your video would play.

released this statement Saturday:

We know large gatherings of people raise the risk of spreading COVID-19. We also know worship is an essential part of many Minnesotans’ lives, including mine. Minnesotans have made great sacrifices to protect their neighbors by staying home. I understand the toll the pandemic has taken on the spiritual health of Minnesotans. As the CDC allows for places of worship to reopen, I have partnered with faith leaders to ensure there are clear public health guidelines to do so as safely as possible
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Gov. Tim Walz Allows Places Of Worship To Reopen Under New Guidance From CDC

Walz signed an executive order on Saturday that amends his previous orders -- to allow for safe worship, weddings, and funerals.
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thehill.com

Brazil surpasses Russia with second-highest coronavirus case count in the world

Brazil has surpassed Russia as the country with the second-highest reported coronavirus cases in the world on Friday, according to a count by Johns Hopkins University.As of Saturday, the largest co…
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Bolsanaro continues to downplay it in Brazil. He is a fascist so I am not surprised. They are headed for a monumental disaster.
 
eyewall said:
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Plain downright pathetic someone makes that ad. One could be made for governors and mayors of IL, NY, CA, MI and others. People die every day and all the media and liberal pos can do is hate. They are truly miserable in life and a cancer to America. You know Obama was golfing about a month ago. The pos liberals can do as they want. Send infected to nursing home. Remove their loved ones from nursing homes before they send infected ones to nursing homes. Send their families on vacations. Have plastic surgeries. List goes on and on. Oh that’s right is all Trumps fault and the Trumpsters with TDS. What goes around comes around. Karma comes for the pos liberals.
 
dailycaller.com

Gov. Ralph Northam Caught Without A Mask At Virginia Beach

Gov. Ralph Northam was caught without a face mask at Virginia Beach Saturday as the Democrat weighs a statewide order requiring citizens to wear masks.
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I’m sure it’s Trumps fault he had no mask on. Wait he was at the beach when people are dying from the virus? Wonder if he will get an ad made like Trump did?



That sure is a small 6 feet.
 
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