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Ostrich December

Please just remember that this is an Anafront setup that rarely works. I would ignore the consistency of the GEFS, that means nothing. I can count several times when the GFS/GEFS showed consistency with systems but never verified. The same can be said about the Euro but to less of an extent. If we get 72 hours out, and models are still showing something, I'll give in. But hey, I hope I'm wrong, White Christmas FTW!
@Ollie Williams i totally agree but at this point I’ll take what ever I can get it’s just the snow weenie in me
 
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I’ll save this cause it will be gone at 00z


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Idk Euro has been going this way. It has me wondering if the Euro may try to keep that trend up and fracture the trough
 
I wouldn't say the euro caved but it does show some back end snow. It may be a different set up than the gfs but the gfs has been showing back end snow for the last several days. But the severe weather threat will definitely be the biggest issue

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@ryan1234 I think its you avatar. You could post that you just hit the lottery but your picture says, "I'm so disappointed and sad".

In other news, the EURO showing SOMETHING is kind of a happy, hopefully not short-lived moment. Let's bring this crappy year to a nice close!!

Okay, can we please stop with the insults and discuss the weather? Kind of getting annoyed for voicing my opinion and getting heat for saying what most of us have already said. Thanks!
 
Hmmm, maybe we can trend this to a nice upper level low snow event, and that would include more people over a anafront View attachment 58788
That looks pretty similar to the January 2018 storm. Too bad we get another piece of energy to pull it north. I wouldn’t say that it’s an analog.
 
It's not the same at all. Just because the results are similar doesn't mean how they get there is.

The Euro wasn't far off from burying parts of the region in a decent snow
Ok,gotcha...might not be technically the same, I'm just talking about trending more towards some snow...I agree something bigger could be in the works
 
@ryan1234 I think its you avatar. You could post that you just hit the lottery but your picture says, "I'm so disappointed and sad".

In other news, the EURO showing SOMETHING is kind of a happy, hopefully not short-lived moment. Let's bring this crappy year to a nice close!!
WTF?
 
Hmmm, maybe we can trend this to a nice upper level low snow event, and that would include more people over a anafront View attachment 58788

If it cuts off like that, it would be nice to get the northern stream a bit ahead of it, I think. Would help with cold air. Don't think we'll pull off that nice of a look though, and this still gives me flurries on the back side verbatim. Not a huge fan of positive height anomalies near Maine, personally.
 
Ok,gotcha...might not be technically the same, I'm just talking about trending more towards some snow...I agree something bigger could be in the works
Honestly if you want to see legitimate snowfall you have got to be pulling for the Euro and not the gfs at this point. Your area might do ok in a gfs scenario if I remember correctly you do ok on the backside of lows in the caa setup but for a good majority of posters the Euro look is far more likely to give at least some flurries or snow showers if not a period of snow
 
What you like to see here is the euro placing more energy at the base of the trough and consolidating it. This setup certainly favors MS/Al/NGa/Tn/NWSC/WNC. What you want to see is the closed upper low at the base of the trough try to dig more and separate from the northern part of the trough in the lakes. If you want to go for a memorable storm you want to energy digging in and feeding into the back of the trough to be a little more west. This may help entice the base of the trough to slow and help get us a true phaser and sfc low. The potential here is very high but you've got to move a couple of piecestrend-ecmwf_full-2020121912-f144.500hv.conus.gif
 
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