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October Odyssey

nm, you had one last year.. lol

Yup Halloween last year if I remember and then we had an almost winter storm in mid November(hit 22 degrees which I believe may have been our coldest temperature all winter or close to it) before the actual winter was lame :p

There was a winter since I've been here it wasn't til December

Actually last year was very similar with a major cold snap before Halloween with the current runs for next week there was a couple days with a high below 50
 
My station reported a low of 43F, others around reported 39-40
We suck
 
12z GFS looking interesting for the 27th for the deep south. Too bad it's out past 180 hours. There does seem to be consistency for an Eastern trough around this date. It would be nice to get a Snowtober down here.
 
This look reminds me of last spring, nice hail setup with long straight Hodographs (supports left splits as well) keep this look and a large hail setup may be possible FC0F0820-1E0A-4941-ADF9-1E7861175CD9.pngF0155EB7-F982-44F1-ADD2-2F5787045C47.png83ABE038-26CF-4F3A-9AEE-D13E41C54658.pngC2E0EFCC-56F0-4753-B0A7-AED1F69C6450.png
 
Honestly, I really didn’t want to see that trading toward the west, this early.


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Yep because cold November pattern in this case with Nina forcing means when the wavelengths reach their full maturity (& lengthen) in DJF, we are going to be in the crest of a ridge. This definitely looks like one of those winters where we will probably need to score early and often in December and January, as most signs point towards a raging +AO/NAO/-PNA in late winter and spring.
 
Yep because cold November pattern in this case with Nina forcing means when the wavelengths reach their full maturity (& lengthen) in DJF, we are going to be in the crest of a ridge. This definitely looks like one of those winters where we will probably need to score early and often in December and January, as most signs point towards a raging +AO/NAO/-PNA in late winter and spring.

That’s Probably gonna be the build up to a big severe weather pattern when we move towards spring
 
So are phases 7 through 2 what bring cooler weather to the SE?

Here’s the answer to your question...

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Yep because cold November pattern in this case with Nina forcing means when the wavelengths reach their full maturity (& lengthen) in DJF, we are going to be in the crest of a ridge. This definitely looks like one of those winters where we will probably need to score early and often in December and January, as most signs point towards a raging +AO/NAO/-PNA in late winter and spring.
It always seems like with 1st years or single year LaNinas that the window for southern winter storms is early... late November to mid January.... 2000-01 and 2010-11 come to mind. Do you think this LaNina is a multi-year event, because if it is that’s bad news for next year... for example 2011-12 was the 2nd year of a LaNina and we all remember how horrible that was
 
Yep because cold November pattern in this case with Nina forcing means when the wavelengths reach their full maturity (& lengthen) in DJF, we are going to be in the crest of a ridge. This definitely looks like one of those winters where we will probably need to score early and often in December and January, as most signs point towards a raging +AO/NAO/-PNA in late winter and spring.

There is an anomaly however, which may cause a temporary displacement for this wavelength. TS EPSILON. I read a blog from Cosgrove and he seems to agree.
 
There is an anomaly however, which may cause a temporary displacement for this wavelength. TS EPSILON. I read a blog from Cosgrove and he seems to agree.
Id watch the west PAC too here's as we may get a couple of typhoons in the coming weeks. Probably just going to lead toward a nice western trough and SE ridge
 
It always seems like with 1st years or single year LaNinas that the window for southern winter storms is early... late November to mid January.... 2000-01 and 2010-11 come to mind. Do you think this LaNina is a multi-year event, because if it is that’s bad news for next year... for example 2011-12 was the 2nd year of a LaNina and we all remember how horrible that was

Usually ~50% of La Nina events last more than one consecutive boreal winter. As for snow, it's slightly higher on average in first year La Ninas, but this certainly isn't always true or are the difference(s) between 2nd and first year La Ninas statistically significant
 
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