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Pattern Nippy November
- Thread starter jackendrickwx
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To be clear what the gfs is showing and what the euro is showing are two separate systems days apart ........ carry on
BUT ,it just proves that we are entering the greatest time of year
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BUT ,it just proves that we are entering the greatest time of year
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Most folks will probably like the 12Z EPS for temperatures for 11/12-17 as they're cooler than the 0Z run. Here's what the 12Z EPS has for the SE as a whole: averaging warmer than normal for 11/5 through AM of 11/8 and then mainly cooler than normal late 11/8 through 17, with some of that cool even getting down to @pcbjr and myself. Keep in mind that the EPS has had a warm bias recently.
pcbjr
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Larry,
Cool weather in November is nice, and enjoyable, and we certainly have no control over when it comes, or how cool it'll be, but preferentially, after 12/15 through 3/15 is, well, the optimum for us anyways ...
Phil
Meanwhile, today's cool is near ideal for walking! I plan to go for a 3rd day in a row great walk later. So far, 3 out of 3 for Nov! They won't all be good but that's a nice start.
Webberweather53
Meteorologist
Obviously a completely different setup, but ironically it snowed on November 10-12th 1987 during what was also a 2nd year El Nino event in the winter of 1987-88.
Everyone around here of course remembers 1987-88 for what followed in January:
Everyone around here of course remembers 1987-88 for what followed in January:
ForsythSnow
Moderator
If that bias remains, then I could easily see us having a cooler November overall. Even without the bias and acting if it's dead on, that's great news.
pcbjr
Member
The walks have been stellar ... this AM the birds were not even chirping it was so cool (46º) ... drifted back to August, lowered my head a tad and said a "thank you" prayer for today ...
As GaWx has stated in the past, that memorable storm, occurred during a +NAO! We are good at those!
Webberweather53
Meteorologist
The hemispheric 500mb pattern associated w/ the historic Jan 1988 storm ought to look familiar...
Big cold vortex over SE Canada/+NAO/-EPO & a respectable SW Atlantic subtropical ridge, a pattern we've seen over & over since 2012-13.
With the placement of snowfall, it appears that the low would be a southern slider, (snow on back side) and low tracks along the eastern coast.
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Actually It’s a low that makes its way up the EC. Normally this setup would bring us rain, but because of the Extremely low height, precipitation falls as snow.
It's that secondary surface low (that I have mentioned) that develops on the tail end of the cold front.
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pcbjr
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It is 11/8 and some folks need rain ... perhaps a prayer answered?Rain
NoSnowATL
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I still think the upper south should still watch this one, it's not that far off for something special
Yeah, it actually was not a bad run. Precip was just lighter and too far south/east. I still wouldn't wager any money we get anything, but still something to keep an eye on.
Different storm. Euro snow was on Monday, I believeRain
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It's really difficult to imagine anything more than token flakes this time of year. But whatever, never say never.