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Pattern Magnificent March

ATLwxfan said:
It just dropped to 59 in Buckhead. It’s finally starting to feel like late March around here!

It’s 55 here and my average high is 53 now. I’d say it feels more like normal for this time of year now then late March. Still going to hit some 60s this week but the difference is the lows around 40 and some upper 30s instead of 65 at midnight. Tuesday and Wednesday night will be a little warm before the really cooler weather settles in late week. Should start to see some freezes by then.

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Lots of other stuff can be found to say otherwise, but let's see if one more Hurrah is in the deck ...

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Let's see ...
500 heights not bad
Models want to go BN
PNA ticks to a tad above +
AO and NAO tank
MJO at least gets inside the circle
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What more could one ask for on an 85º bloody Sunday afternoon in February?

PS - Even the Jamstec wants to share some love ...
Guess doom and gloom could result, but this is all so interesting ...
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Tarheel1 said:
Man, March really losing that cold look on the models now. Normal temps will be a win! Snow chances are non existent outside the mountains . Reading the MA thread at the other place and they were really excited about a week ago for themselves, now it’s almost like a funeral in there now! If they’ve all but lost hope for snow and cold, we just better stock up on weed killer and fertilizer, and get that lawnmower tuned up!o_O
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The americanwx mid-Atlantic thread is pure gold in times like these when threats "disappear" or are hardly present and then reappear in the medium range (if at all). I don't know why they're so upset, the pattern doesn't look half bad up that way in general, good storms rarely show up on NWP this far out anyway. If nothing happens then we'll all get a nice laugh to watch all the weenie meltdowns and cliff jumping knowing that many of us have seen more snow & a bigger storm than those in the DC metro this winter (so far).
 
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It’s amazing the MJO rolled right through phases 8,1 and now into 2,
( cold east phases) and I just kept right on baking through the 70s and 80s the whole time! :mad:
What are the 100 degree phases for summer? I bet we stay in those phases July-September! :eek::weenie:
 
The longevity of this regime certainly isn't quite as notable as other extraordinary -NAOs, but the intensity of this forthcoming -NAO event (attributable to the SSW/PV split and favorable tropical forcing and decreasing wavelengths from a large-scale perspective) is arguably elite-very elite.
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Webberweather53 said:
The longevity of this regime certainly isn't quite as notable as other extraordinary -NAOs, but the intensity of this forthcoming -NAO event (attributable to the SSW/PV split and favorable tropical forcing and decreasing wavelengths from a large-scale perspective) is arguably elite-very elite.
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This is all well and good but what does this amount to for the south? It looks cool but not necessarily cold and maybe some snow in the mountains. Sorry, I’m just a layman but not seeing what the big deal is.


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ATLwxfan said:
This is all well and good but what does this amount to for the south? It looks cool but not necessarily cold and maybe some snow in the mountains. Sorry, I’m just a layman but not seeing what the big deal is.


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My post really didn't have anything to do with snow in anyone's backyard, it's a genuine appreciation for events like this whether they actually result in anything or not.
 
I’ll never look at the -NAO in the same light again! We did fine this year without it! I’m ready for a wet summer and a cool , snowless winter next year, with a weak El Niño!
 
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Webberweather53 said:
My post really didn't have anything to do with snow in anyone's backyard, it's a genuine appreciation for events like this whether they actually result in anything or not.
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Where does the appreciation come from? Tbh, all you see is heights rising in Greenland and whatever else happens in a -NAO. I'm trying, but I really don't see anything to be appreciative about it, especially when it seemingly has little to no effect on our weather right now. All I see from that is a blocking high and low pressure over the Atlantic. It's just like, "What does this all even mean, especially when it has little to no weather effect?" "What's the point?" Me, and others on this board don't understand what so appreciative about this event that you and Jon and HM are so focused on. Please clarify for us because I just don't get it. @Jon @Webberweather53
Edit: Not to mention, we don't or didn't even get this when we really need it. Who knows how long it'll be before this know kinda event comes when we really need it for appreciable significant weather potential in winter, etc? It may be impressive, but there seems be nothing to appreciate about it especially when it is always too little too late and doesn't have any real significant weather impacts and I'm not just talking about snow. This -NAO is just elite for just being elite for no other reason but the SSW, polar vortex, tropical forcing, again all of which has worked out badly for most of us on the Eastern half of the country and blowtorched us instead of giving us any real winter weather like what is expected in this time of the calendar year. It's basically almost over now. All that atmospheric forcing and nothing to show for it but spring/summer weather even for the Northeast when we already know we will be warm when spring and summer actually come. This is just meaningless right now. Again, please clarify what is the real meaning and appreciation behind all this to us. Thank you. Sorry, but I had to vent and get that rant out for me and others.
 
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Clayton said:
Where does the appreciation come from? Tbh, all you see is heights rising in Greenland and whatever else happens in a -NAO. I'm trying, but I really don't see anything to be appreciative about it, especially when it seemingly has little to no effect on our weather right now. All I see from that is a blocking high and low pressure over the Atlantic. It's just like, "What does this all even mean, especially when it has little to no weather effect?" "What's the point?" Me, and others on this board don't understand what so appreciative about this event that you and Jon and HM are so focused on. Please clarify for us because I just don't get it. @Jon @Webberweather53
Edit: Not to mention, we don't or didn't even get this when we really need it. Who knows how long it'll be before this know kinda event comes when we really need it for appreciable significant weather potential in winter, etc? It may be impressive, but there seems be nothing to appreciate about it especially when it is always too little too late and doesn't have any real significant weather impacts and I'm not just talking about snow. This -NAO is just elite for just being elite for no other reason but the SSW, polar vortex, tropical forcing, again all of which has worked out badly for most of us on the Eastern half of the country and blowtorched us instead of giving us any real winter weather like what is expected in this time of the calendar year. It's basically almost over now. All that atmospheric forcing and nothing to show for it but spring/summer weather even for the Northeast when we already know we will be warm when spring and summer actually come. This is just meaningless right now. Again, please clarify what is the real meaning and appreciation behind all this to us. Thank you. Sorry, but I had to vent and get that rant out for me and others.
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The real appreciation is simply that, I like the weather for what it is, the center of the distribution and the extremes, and not just because I want a particular outcome (i.e. snow) or sensational event in my backyard 24-7-365 and then get upset about it when it doesn't happen exactly the way I want it to every single time. Unlike most of my peers and a number of others I've come to know in the atmospheric sciences community, my fascination with the weather is not rooted in one or a series of cataclysmic weather events, but rather a genuine appreciation for both extreme weather and relatively more benign phenomena and the dynamics that modulate them. My allure into this field grew out of the amazement of the dynamics not the end result (even though its often quite captivating and I certainly think they helped solidify my intrigue). The NAO and other teleconnections are a beginner's way of viewing representative large-scale and background forcing that does impact our weather even when it's not particularly strong, just because a -NAO doesn't lead to snow doesn't mean a) it's not important b) doesn't have a substantial impact on our pattern c) when it's not present we're incapable of getting cold and snow.
 
Webberweather53 said:
The real appreciation is simply that, I like the weather for what it is, the center of the distribution and the extremes, and not just because I want a particular outcome (i.e. snow) or sensational event in my backyard 24-7-365 and then get upset about it when it doesn't happen exactly the way I want it to every single time. Unlike most of my peers and a number of others I've come to know in the atmospheric sciences community, my fascination with the weather is not rooted in one or a series of cataclysmic weather events, but rather a genuine appreciation for both extreme weather and relatively more benign phenomena and the dynamics that modulate them. My allure into this field grew out of the amazement of the dynamics not the end result (even though its often quite captivating and I certainly think they helped solidify my intrigue). The NAO and other teleconnections are a beginner's way of viewing representative large-scale and background forcing that does impact our weather even when it's not particularly strong, just because a -NAO doesn't lead to snow doesn't mean a) it's not important b) doesn't have a substantial impact on our pattern c) when it's not present we're incapable of getting cold and snow.
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I'm sorry. I have always been fasimated withhe weather, but it has been more about getting the excitement out of heavy snow, ice, thunderstorms, etc without taking the time to really appreciate the Dynamics behind it and having a legitimate appreciation for weather. I'm only 22 so I can understand knowing more than your peers. I've had my share of knowing and caring more about the weather than my peers also. I guess my lack of appreciation has contributed to my anger and disappointment. Thank you for helping me to see what I have been lacking: appreciation
 
979 low centered over southern Indiana... that's good for a laugh.
 
That system moving SE off the Atlantic coast this weekend is a strange looking thing. I can't recall ever seeing something that strong doing that, at least in the winter.
 
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