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Wintry Jan 2-4 2022 Winter Weather Event/Obs

18z was actually better for us west folks
It was
man this setup really interests me with that comma head/deformation zone, shows up nicely on the euro, that’s what I’m banking on here and what many should watch, with a strengthening and formidable 1000/999mb mid latitude cyclone View attachment 100839View attachment 100840View attachment 100838View attachment 100841View attachment 100842

Lol the snow is gonna be like cement, gonna be hard to accumulate, those ratios suck

10 to 11 tonight, a two inch band in one hour from huntsville to birmingham
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That gonna move through the shoals firsr?
 
Well GFS is consistent in showing a snow hole here in Surry county, and along the foothills, NW flow is eating the moisture up, and pooling it up just to our east. These type of events can produce wild swings over small areas .
 
I'm just wondering due to the lack of Cold air to support snow in the Upstate, if those areas could see sleet? I'm speaking of North of 85. Below there I think has no chance at anything frozen.

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The problem in Greenville is you're too warm at the surface. There is no significant subzero layer to create sleet as well.
 

I am truly starting to wonder how much better this can trend for us. EVERY single run is slowly ticking higher and higher. Each HRRR seems to get a tad stronger and slower at the end. We truly may get a surprise. I mean these bright yellow colors turning to snow is going to make for some heavy snow. This could be the heaviest I have seen fall. I am all in for a surprise.
 
If this were to verify then why does folks think It won't do anything in upstate? I understand no accumulation but this would definitely bring Snow Falling across upstate north of 85

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I'm not saying it can't happen but no where in SC below 3000ft is there a sounding below freezing until the moisture is gone. I've pulled soundings from all over and just haven't seen it.
 
I'm not saying it can't happen but no where in SC below 3000ft is there a sounding below freezing until the moisture is gone. I've pulled soundings from all over and just haven't seen it.
But yet the models keep showing the snow line down into the upstate as posted above

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Okay, the problem if you're not in Travelers Rest or on Sassafrass Mountain is the column isnt supportive of anything but rain. You're at 40/40 during the height.
I'm in Northern near Hwy 11

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But yet the models keep showing the snow line down into the upstate as posted above

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That's an ensemble and it's a clown map. Unless a clown map shows snow down below 85 then I wouldn't put a lot of stock in it.
 
I just dont see how your column can trend to anything significant.
I haven't been talking about anything "Significant" I've just said that areas above 85 could see Flakes flying. I know there will be Nothing "Significant"

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The trends for Alabama have been incredible the past 36 hours. I said this had northeast AL written all over it, and I’m sticking to it. Somewhere between I20 and the state line, east of I65 is going to get plastered….I’m calling 6+ of actual accumulation with major travel issues on Monday.
 
I'm not saying it can't happen but no where in SC below 3000ft is there a sounding below freezing until the moisture is gone. I've pulled soundings from all over and just haven't seen it.
and if there was a way to find a snow column, this man would've found it.
 
The trends for Alabama have been incredible the past 36 hours. I said this had northeast AL written all over it, and I’m sticking to it. Somewhere between I20 and the state line, east of I65 is going to get plastered….I’m calling 6+ of actual accumulation with major travel issues on Monday.
I know it’s a total different setup, but that foot of snow we got a couple years ago the first week of Dec was a total surprise to everyone. It was a narrow area that got it I think. I’m in NW Paulding in GA and we got a foot lol
 
This might be a stretch but I do wonder if warmer soil temps (widespread upper 50s/low 60s) could mean a slightly warmer BL then modeled for many areas
 
I haven't been talking about anything "Significant" I've just said that areas above 85 could see Flakes flying. I know there will be Nothing "Significant"

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GSP actually has rain and snow mixed in the forecast for tomorrow morning all the way down into the city of Greenville. IF that happened places like TR, Landrum, and maybe Pickens could possibly go over to all snow for a little while.
 
These ULLs seem to be our best snows here in N central AL. They aren’t our biggest but I like our chances. The dynamic cooling is very much needed to get snow. Especially with the marginal (for a snow storm) cold setup.


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GSP actually has rain and snow mixed in the forecast for tomorrow morning all the way down into the city of Greenville. IF that happened places like TR, Landrum, and maybe Pickens could possibly go over to all snow for a little while.
Looks like a Nov 1 2014 type snow! - the 5” in TR
 
South Carolina upstate. I wouldn’t at all be surprised to see maybe 1/2-1 north of highway 11. South of there maybe a novelty flake while your asleep.


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These ULLs seem to be our best snows here in N central AL. They aren’t our biggest but I like our chances. The dynamic cooling is very much needed to get snow. Especially with the marginal (for a snow storm) cold setup.


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This has AL surprise snow written all over it. Not as confident for GA but i think someone in AL will get 6".
 
GSP actually has rain and snow mixed in the forecast for tomorrow morning all the way down into the city of Greenville. IF that happened places like TR, Landrum, and maybe Pickens could possibly go over to all snow for a little while.
You can't tell some of these people that.

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The trends for Alabama have been incredible the past 36 hours. I said this had northeast AL written all over it, and I’m sticking to it. Somewhere between I20 and the state line, east of I65 is going to get plastered….I’m calling 6+ of actual accumulation with major travel issues on Monday.
Just out of curiosity, is there some scientific formula or something out there that deals with how much snow it takes to cool down ground temps before it starts to stick? I just find it hard to believe that 6 inches would be enough to cause travel issues with ground temps so warm. Not saying your wrong by any means, I am hoping it happens. But I have my doubts.
 
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