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Tropical Global Model Runs Discussion 2018

Eps agrees with the operational with 3 storms in the Atlantic. Other than the one east of PR now the middle system in this image concerns me the most. That weakness in the Atlantic may kick out and it have a long west track
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Yeah I saw a few EPS members showing a major hurricane on that one in the middle near or north of Puerto Rico in about 12-14 days time.
 
Yeah I saw a few EPS members showing a major hurricane on that one in the middle near or north of Puerto Rico in about 12-14 days time.
I was looking at the cpc analogs a few days ago and they had some years with close NC hits like 95 with felix or direct hits like 2003 isabel and 96 fran. It looks like the 12z gefs backed off of those years minus 95 and added some 2005 days. I hope that the central Atlantic escape route the models are showing verifies but I have concerns. The setup right now as a whole favors subtropical ridging which could easily push something toward the SE coast

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To be honest it's not incredibly shocking to see a big burst of activity. Atlantic sst have warmed and the wave train from Africa is getting highly active.

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To add to your point, most of the Gulf of Mexico is at or above 90 on SST’s
 
To add to your point, most of the Gulf of Mexico is at or above 90 on SST’s

Mack,
I know the Gulf is very warm and the warmest part of the Atlantic basin currently. However, the map I saw didn’t have it quite that warm other than perhaps isolated spots near SW FL. I’d say most of it is 85-88 though, which itself is plenty warm enough for potential major trouble.
Have you actually seen a map with 90+ F or 32+ C dominating the Gulf?
 
Mack,
I know the Gulf is very warm and the warmest part of the Atlantic basin currently. However, the map I saw didn’t have it quite that warm other than perhaps isolated spots near SW FL. I’d say most of it is 85-88 though, which itself is plenty warm enough for potential major trouble.
Have you actually seen a map with 90+ F or 32+ C dominating the Gulf?
They showed one on TWC and said the whole Gulf was 90 degrees!? I guess I should check my sources!:(:mad:
 
Mack,
I know the Gulf is very warm and the warmest part of the Atlantic basin currently. However, the map I saw didn’t have it quite that warm other than perhaps isolated spots near SW FL. I’d say most of it is 85-88 though, which itself is plenty warm enough for potential major trouble.
Have you actually seen a map with 90+ F or 32+ C dominating the Gulf?

TCHP is decent across the GOM although the Caribbean is boiling.

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TCHP is decent across the GOM although the Caribbean is boiling.

The Caribbean is always like that its amazing... and really nothing has tapped it lately, that's how Wilma broke records in 2005

Irma last year didn't even touch the best heat content and look what it did
 
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Euro again develops the Gulf storm around the Florida Peninsula Monday/Tuesday and comes off near Tampa

GFS had nothing in the Gulf but a wave

They both agree on quickly developing Florence out by Africa by this weekend though

Euro is a lot weaker and further NE than last night though... 1005 mb near Pensacola at 192
 
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It is interesting to see that while the W Caribbean has the warmest TCHP of the Atlantic basin, the Gulf SSTs (mainly 86-88 F) are currently averaging about 2 F warmer than the W Caribbean SSTs (mainly 84-86).

That’s because the depth of the warmer water is higher in the Caribbean.


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That’s because the depth of the warmer water is higher in the Caribbean.

BHS,
Thanks. I figured that but I still thought that it was interesting. I’m guessing the W Caribbean usually or perhaps almost always is warmer at depth because it is further south and doesn’t get exposed to the cold air intrusions of winter like the GOM does and also has a higher sun angle during all but near the summer solstice, when it becomes near the same. And perhaps the hot US summer as well as mostly untouched GOM allowed surface temps to temporarily warm above that of the W Caribbean.
 
The wave right behind the one in question over the Antilles also is being picked up by the ECMWF around day 9 as it heads towards the SE US coast, development of this feature seems less likely given it'll be sheared by the other storm in the Gulf but who knows, it's early September so anything can happen.

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There’s a new tropical storm in the Eastern Pacific that poses a threat to Hawaii.
 
All in for watching the next couple of weeks with possible storms to track. I will have sweaty palms and grey hair by the time 9/15 gets here. That is the day the wife and I head to Panama City Beach for our annual "by ourselves" vacation. Looks like we could have unwanted company in the area. Maybe we can get some troughyness into the SE by then and keep the gulf clear.
 
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