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Pattern Fabulous February

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360 hour map: I can't post it, but I'll describe it. Nice blocking combo of -AO, Greenland, and -EPO with cross polar flow. WSW H5 flow SE bringing in plentiful moisture as SE ridge giving way. Cold most of country just to our NW. SE near normal but we don't want a plunge of cold as that's normally very dry. We want the edge of it mixing with moisture. This is not far from that. Of course, this is well out in long range. So, take with a grain. But gives us hope for mid-Feb/primetime for snow per history.
 
360 hour map: I can't post it, but I'll describe it. Nice blocking combo of -AO, Greenland, and -EPO with cross polar flow. WSW H5 flow SE bringing in plentiful moisture as SE ridge giving way. Cold most of country just to our NW. SE near normal but we don't want a plunge of cold as that's normally very dry. We want the edge of it mixing with moisture. This is not far from that. Of course, this is well out in long range. So, take with a grain. But gives us hope for mid-Feb/primetime for snow per history.
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Here comes another downwelling Kelvin Wave trying to give El Nino another go later this year.

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At this point,I'm not sure if I want another El Nino after what this winter and the other recent El Nino in the 2015-2016 winter has been. This winter is even worse than last year and many other winters that were La Nina's/non El Nino's.
 
Thanks. That's better than a sharp stick in the eye, but I'm not sure I'd call that an effective -NAO, although the values would probably be negative. Would be better to have an elongated PV, squashed southeast by a high pressure zone over Greenland. The EPO region looks good and we don't have a raging Pac Jet. The WAR is gone and the SE ridge is retreating, which is good. The storm track is still going to be too far north. But hopefully, we can get a Miller B out of it. Hopefully even more, it evolves into a more favorable pattern.

JB still thinks the SE will experience a very harsh 30 day period of winter weather, centered in the SE after Feb 10th or so. He's been all over that, so we'll have to see if it works out. I'm skeptical.

Also, it's good to remember the above image is a blend. The trough in the west could end up being centered farther east. And the PV could be as well. Anyway, better to see an image like that than some of the recent ones. Also good to see Webber's MJO post with the pulse looking more likely to make it into the colder phases. My own feeling is that winter only takes a brief hiatus. We'll have a couple of more legit chances for snow.
 
At this point,I'm not sure if I want another El Nino after what this winter and the other recent El Nino in the 2015-2016 winter has been. This winter is even worse than last year and many other winters that were La Nina's/non El Nino's.

The winter isn't over and a good portion of the El Nino prime climo period is still ahead. Even if the current one fails, longterm climo studies would still show El Nino better than La Nina for much of SE for wintry, especially snow.

Aside: the best ENSO for ATL and vicinity for major ZR, alone, has actually been cold neutral.
 
Oh my. Looking over the GEFS, EPS, and operationals from the past couple of days, there is absolutely nothing in the line of Winter weather for the central Midlands. Not even a fantasy ensemble member with a big storm. This does not bode well.
 
Oh my. Looking over the GEFS, EPS, and operationals from the past couple of days, there is absolutely nothing in the line of Winter weather for the central Midlands. Not even a fantasy ensemble member with a big storm. This does not bode well.

Yeah, nothing showing but looking towards the ends of the ensemble runs suggests potential just with relatively subtle changes in H5. Keep in mind that there will always verify differently that far out in time (hopefully slightly better in this case). The supply of Arctic air would at the least not be too far away. If the MJO is favorable and we have a solid -AO, Greenland block, and -EPO, there will very likely be plenty of cold air not far away at the least.
 
Thanks. That's better than a sharp stick in the eye, but I'm not sure I'd call that an effective -NAO, although the values would probably be negative. Would be better to have an elongated PV, squashed southeast by a high pressure zone over Greenland. The EPO region looks good and we don't have a raging Pac Jet. The WAR is gone and the SE ridge is retreating, which is good. The storm track is still going to be too far north. But hopefully, we can get a Miller B out of it. Hopefully even more, it evolves into a more favorable pattern.

JB still thinks the SE will experience a very harsh 30 day period of winter weather, centered in the SE after Feb 10th or so. He's been all over that, so we'll have to see if it works out. I'm skeptical.

Also, it's good to remember the above image is a blend. The trough in the west could end up being centered farther east. And the PV could be as well. Anyway, better to see an image like that than some of the recent ones. Also good to see Webber's MJO post with the pulse looking more likely to make it into the colder phases. My own feeling is that winter only takes a brief hiatus. We'll have a couple of more legit chances for snow.

Well in Dec after MJO traversed 8-1-2, NC/VA had a major snowfall. In mid-Jan after going through 7-8, VA had a major snow and w-NC had a big ice storm. Maybe we can get a little better path through 8-1-2 in February and get 1 more chance at another SE/MA event. Atleast that's what I am hoping for. I do think we get another 10-14 day window where it's BN in the east.



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Well in Dec after MJO traversed 8-1-2, NC/VA had a major snowfall. In mid-Jan after going through 7-8, VA had a major snow and w-NC had a big ice storm. Maybe we can get a little better path through 8-1-2 in February and get 1 more chance at another SE/MA event. Atleast that's what I am hoping for. I do think we get another 10-14 day window where it's BN in the east.



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Coronal hole rotating through over the next couple of days. MJO should get moving again shortly after.
 
At this point,I'm not sure if I want another El Nino after what this winter and the other recent El Nino in the 2015-2016 winter has been. This winter is even worse than last year and many other winters that were La Nina's/non El Nino's.

We want a reeaaall El-nino, not a little sissy El-nino like deees. lol. Kudos to any who gets the reference. We need an actual el-nino that's coupled with the atmosphere and does not stick the mjo in phases 4-6 all winter. I bet some would argue this was not a true el-nino. I actually hope we do get bit stronger one next year.
 
Well in Dec after MJO traversed 8-1-2, NC/VA had a major snowfall. In mid-Jan after going through 7-8, VA had a major snow and w-NC had a big ice storm. Maybe we can get a little better path through 8-1-2 in February and get 1 more chance at another SE/MA event. Atleast that's what I am hoping for. I do think we get another 10-14 day window where it's BN in the east.



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Have to agree here, I think this intraseasonal push is gonna be the last call for us if we're gonna score again
 
MJO hit the breaks in phase 6, like ffs can we please get it into cold phases for a while.

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This EPS projected track is a near perfect one from my perspective, but with GEFS being far different with another mega amplified MJO projection, who knows if the EPS will come close? That sharp left turn on the EPS looks funny. But the mega-ampified MJO GEFS progged for mid-Jan did turn out to be wrong unlike last Jan/Feb.
 
We want a reeaaall El-nino, not a little sissy El-nino like deees. lol. Kudos to any who gets the reference. We need an actual el-nino that's coupled with the atmosphere and does not stick the mjo in phases 4-6 all winter. I bet some would argue this was not a true el-nino. I actually hope we do get bit stronger one next year.

Ehh I don't agree with that necessarily. Winters like 1935-36, 1979-80, & 2003-04 were wannabe El Ninos like this year and were some of the best winters ever in NC. 1935-36 by far & away is the coldest/snowiest, no other winter comes close aside from 1947-48.
 
So when does our next window for wintry weather start? Seems like the next 2 weeks are a no go. After that?
 
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