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weatherfide said:
How do the hospitals look? Full or is there capacity?
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I’m not sure about the hospital status, not quite sure what that has to do with testing, everything we’ve heard is get people tested if your showing symptoms. If test is positive they can at least quarantine at home instead of being out in public.
 
Thor said:
Are you really saying America, as in our country can't come back from this? Ok I've been mainly a reader of this thread and have appreciated the information here. But all of us are on a weather board. On average we are probably more intelligent than our neighbors, so let's act like it. We are the ones that don't act out of fear, we warn others to help them be informed. We know when things are coming before they happen and that earns you respect, and then people look to you. So let's lead by example. Keep our emotions in check and make thoughtful posts and decisions. Be leaders.
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Sure some will come back but many will not. Some are already losing their jobs and companies. Some will lose their homes. Do you really believe there will not be more poverty and homelessness after this? You really believe the govt is going to just give enough money to everyone to be ok? Companies will suffer and cut employees and some will not hire back. I am using my head. I realize money does not grow on a tree. This is real life and almost half Americans live paycheck to paycheck. Homelessness was already growing. You can live in utopia and think nothing will change but it will. I am positive we will survive but the landscape of America will be much different than before this virus. Just like it changed after 9/11. The middle class has been holding on for years. This could be the thing that erases the middle class and you have the ones the have and have nots. To think that’s not a possibility is having blinders on.
 
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Matthew70 said:
Sure some will come back but many will not. Some are already losing their jobs and companies. Some will lose their homes. Do you really believe there will not be more poverty and homelessness after this? You really believe the govt is going to just give enough money to everyone to be ok? Companies will suffer and cut employees and some will not hire back. I am using my head. I realize money does not grow on a tree. This is real life and almost half Americans live paycheck to paycheck. Homelessness was already growing. You can live in utopia and think nothing will change but it will. I am positive we will survive but the landscape of America will be much different than before this virus. Just like it changed after 9/11. The middle class has been holding on for years. This could be the thing that erases the middle class and you have the ones the have and have nots. To think that’s not a possibility is having blinders on.
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49% of Americans live paycheck to paycheck. That’s awful. I’ve been there and understand it but man that’s a hard way to live as a adult and even worse if you have a family.



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NoSnowATL said:
49% of Americans live paycheck to paycheck. That’s awful. I’ve been there and understand it but man that’s a hard way to live as a adult and even worse if you have a family.



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I’m not trying to cause panic as Thor suggested. I’m using my head. These are hard facts all of us will face. Everyone will be touched by this. So Thor remember that when driving down road to closed businesses and homelessness everywhere and poverty. I pray I’m wrong but just read about the depression and how long it took to come back from that.
 
Matthew70 said:
I’m not trying to cause panic as Thor suggested. I’m using my head. These are hard facts all of us will face. Everyone will be touched by this. So Thor remember that when driving down road to closed businesses and homelessness everywhere and poverty. I pray I’m wrong but just read about the depression and how long it took to come back from that.
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We are not headed towards a depression. I can almost guarantee that. It will be hard but it won’t be devastating to the point of a depression.


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weatherfide said:
Can’t we use statistical analysis to sample the population using a relative small number of tests to get an accurate baseline on the presence of infection? Why hasn’t this been done before shutting everything down?
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Risk management. Time is of the essence.
 
Matthew70 said:
Sure some will come back but many will not. Some are already losing their jobs and companies. Some will lose their homes. Do you really believe there will not be more poverty and homelessness after this? You really believe the govt is going to just give enough money to everyone to be ok? Companies will suffer and cut employees and some will not hire back. I am using my head. I realize money does not grow on a tree. This is real life and almost half Americans live paycheck to paycheck. Homelessness was already growing. You can live in utopia and think nothing will change but it will. I am positive we will survive but the landscape of America will be much different than before this virus. Just like it changed after 9/11. The middle class has been holding on for years. This could be the thing that erases the middle class and you have the ones the have and have nots. To think that’s not a possibility is having blinders on.
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If this country could find a way to save the world in WWII while we were coming out of a depression I'm pretty sure we will rebound from this. After pearl harbor FDR ask for 50000 planes, it seemed impossible at the time. By 1944 we were making 100k a year.
 
I am a long term food service substitute. Had a job posting that was gonna last until at least the entire school year. With a chance at a permanent position. Now my services are not needed during the shutdown meaning I do not get a paycheck. Thankfully I have EBT to keep food stocked. But I really do hope $1000 for every adult is indeed true to help make up for the paychecks I will not be receiving. Making it on my wife’s check along for a family of 5 is not going to be easy.


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NoSnowATL said:
We are not headed towards a depression. I can almost guarantee that. It will be hard but it won’t be devastating to the point of a depression.


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How would you define depression?
 
weatherfide said:
Can’t we use statistical analysis to sample the population using a relative small number of tests to get an accurate baseline on the presence of infection? Why hasn’t this been done before shutting everything down?
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Infected people without symptoms might be driving the spread of coronavirus more than we realized

New studies in several countries and a large coronavirus outbreak in Massachusetts bring into question reassuring assertions by US officials about the way the novel virus spreads.
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Matthew70 said:
I’m not trying to cause panic as Thor suggested. I’m using my head. These are hard facts all of us will face. Everyone will be touched by this. So Thor remember that when driving down road to closed businesses and homelessness everywhere and poverty. I pray I’m wrong but just read about the depression and how long it took to come back from that.
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What got us out of the depression was WWII, not anything FDR did. Unemployment rate did not improve significantly until we geared up for war in 1940 and created millions of new jobs, primarily in the defense industry.
 
NoSnowATL said:
A recession I agree with.
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A recession is two consecutive quarters of negative GDP growth, whereas a depression is a least at 10% contraction in GDP that has at duration of at least 3 years. It's highly unlikely that the world economy won't have recovered within the next 3 years.
 
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GaWx said:
They've got to be way more believable than Hannity and Rush, who if I recall correctly were (and may still be for all I know) severely downplaying this.
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Hell Rush said this was the 19th strain kf corona and since the other 18 arent deadly neither was this one. The amount if cluelessness in that statement was unbelievable.
 
Yellow Snow said:
A recession is two consecutive quarters of negative GDP growth, whereas a recession is a least at 10% contraction in GDP that has at duration of at least 3 years. It's highly unlikely that the world economy won't have recovered within the next 3 years.
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That’s why I say it’s a recession not a depression. We will start the recovery process fast after this virus is handled to the point of non panic. I think Trump is right that the market will go gang busters later this year.




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Here's a bit of good news from the IRS: if you owe taxes on your 2019 return, they've extended the April 15th deadline to pay by 90 days.

Note that this only refers to the payment deadline, *NOT* the filing deadline. You still have to file your tax return on time by April 15th (or file an extension by then).

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IRS to delay the April 15 tax payment deadline by 90 days

Americans will get a three-month reprieve to pay their income taxes for 2019.
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GaWx said:
They've got to be way more believable than Hannity and Rush, who if I recall correctly were (and may still be for all I know) severely downplaying this.
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Yeah I think the idea that we're getting asymptomatic transmission is likelier than people think. Some younger people have been barely affected if at all and if you're barely or not affected you're going to go about your business normally (at least usually, a very few amount of people might not be because of this threat).
 
Downeastnc said:
It is I have seen numbers like 25-50k current cases as the low end 75-150k as the high end with these numbers expected to double a few times before the shutdowns really start to slow it down....
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That has still gotta be very low on the high side. The amount of athletes/movie stars/politicians compared to the public percentage wise is insanely low. For this many to be infected is just crazy.
 
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Coronavirus can persist in air for hours and on surfaces for days: study

Scientists from the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases (NIAID), part of the U.S. National Institutes of Health, attempted to mimic the virus deposited from an infected person onto everyday surfaces in a household or hospital setting, such as through coughing or touching...
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metwannabe said:
Might have been posted earlier, if so my apologies, but @Poimen you see this? They aren't even allowing individuals to drive through the county....

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Not surprised really. I was invited to a locals FB group a few days ago whose sole purpose was to pressure the county to do this. Looks like they won.
 
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