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snowlover91 said:
This is why I spent the past 4 weeks slowly stockpiling this type of stuff... I knew once this got going in the US people would panic and it would be hard to find this stuff. With NC declaring a state of emergency today I imagine our grocery stores are going to be cleaned out.
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Yeah ... we're good on supplies at home (buy some of this and that now and again for 'Cane season prep) but was shocked that toothpaste was being hoarded ... As for T/P ... I have a few dozen boxes in the basement at the office ... after all, we do have folks coming in on occasion ...
 
I lifted this from a AMA on Reddit with a UK doctor....just the flu

"Without talking specifically about my unit, the critically ill patients across the UK are in a broad age mix. There are a smaller number of younger patients (30s to 40s) who are usually well, and a larger number of older patients with co-morbidities.

Italy exceeded their critical care capacity days ago. The European intensive care community is relatively close knit - we all have friends and colleagues in EU hospitals and we see each other often at conferences and the like. The news from Italy is incredibly sad. The units are full, no operations are occurring as patients are being ventilated in theatres. Portable ventilators are being used.

Italy recently released a set of COVID guidelines aimed at addressing resource allocation in times of severe demand and lack of supply. This is the first time I have seen guidelines in a first world country suggest that older patients (who have survivable illness) are not considered for intubation and ventilation in order to allow capacity to treat younger patients.

This is an incredibly bleak situation - our thoughts and prayers are with our Italian colleagues - but it may only be a week or two until we are in the same ship."
 
It appears mortality rates of those 50 or younger are very low. So there's that at least.

But the rate of 70+ isn't going down. I'm not 100% sure what the solution is, but we need to figure out a way to contain this if possible. Perhaps a complete quarantine isn't needed if we can find a way to quarantine our elderly instead?

**Just thinking out loud here.
 
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LithiaWx said:
Metro Atlanta sucks for the coronavirus. It’s so NOT contained.
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We get 40 to 60 over the road truckers a day at the warehouse i work. Theres 16 guys at my station 4 each on 4 different teams. There are 4 shared forklifts and we all use the same HMI touchscreens for operation s of the palletizers.

There is a very slim chance we wont get hit as we have truckers from all over the country coming and going daily.
 
I agree something needs to be done to keep the older people isolated from this virus. Here is the dilemma that we face as a nation and as a world. Here in the US 4 outta 5 might be 3 outta 5 live paycheck to paycheck. If cities shut down or companies, plants, etc for 2 weeks Min. How will those families survive? They will need assistance in some way. If not they lose their houses, vehicles and possibly can not afford groceries. Also how many small businesses go under or even larger companies. If this virus does get outta control then it’s sad and dire to think of so many hurting and losing what they have along with all the deaths. And thinking about my mom would be one to be sacrificed for a younger individual if ventilators become scarce. Really a situation I prefer to avoid for ALL! So hopefully a vaccine is soon. No I’m not panicking but we can’t control the govt deciding to quarantine. Those individuals in NY had no choice. Now they are at govt will. This is the reason for this thread and discussing it. All those that laughed now it’s probably not as funny what we as a nation face. What happens when you are in quarantine for 2 weeks?
 
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Not worried about myself with this virus tbh, more so for older family/ family with health conditions and the strain the virus could cause, gotta realize influenza already has emergency rooms busy right now, and influenza type B should start picking up the next few weeks before it drops off
 
Myfrotho704_ said:
Not worried about myself with this virus tbh, more so for older family/ family with health conditions and the strain the virus could cause, gotta realize influenza already has emergency rooms busy right now, and influenza type B should start picking up the next few weeks before it drops off
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Agree....If people would just take a step back, breathe, realize its here, its been here, there is NOTHING we could have done to prevent it we could all beat it back under control. It does nobody any good to panic and stress out over this. Hell most of the panic comes from watching other people panic.
 
Yellow Snow said:
A friend of mine who's a physics professor at Iowa State just got this notice yesterday:

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Looks like many colleges are scrambling quickly to move to online teaching. I've seen this from a lot of colleges in the past few days.
 
I think what everyone is missing about containment and quarantine is the fact that China did prevent it's spread from throughout it's country. Yes, it made it out of China but it did not infect all 1.1 Billion Chinese citizens. They stopped it dead in their tracks under totalitarian rule. They used every trick in their surveillance alter. The question is really how far are American and other countries willing to go?!?

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Much of the report focuses on understanding how China achieved what many public health experts thought was impossible: containing the spread of a widely circulating respiratory virus. “China has rolled out perhaps the most ambitious, agile, and aggressive disease containment effort in history,” the report notes.

The most dramatic—and controversial—measure was the lockdown of Wuhan and nearby cities in Hubei province, which has put at least 50 million people under a mandatory quarantine since 23 January. That has “effectively prevented further exportation of infected individuals to the rest of the country,” the report concludes. In other regions of mainland China, people voluntarily quarantined and were monitored by appointed leaders in neighborhoods.

Basically, this would be like putting Washington, Oregon and California under quarantine so it does not spread as much to non-coastal states.
 
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