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Misc Winter Weather Support Group

packfan98 said:
This makes me nauseous...
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CMC even worse and just through 10 days.

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KyloG said:
CMC even worse and just through 10 days.

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The thing is, it's like that every year now isn't it? Even the last several Nina years, they've been wet IIRC, even though Nina's are supposed to be dry.

Again, something in our planetary oceanic, atmospheric conditions makes a western trough, warm and wet SE happen every year. Dont know what it is, but it ain't Nina and Nino.
 
SnowNiner said:
The thing is, it's like that every year now isn't it? Even the last several Nina years, they've been wet IIRC, even though Nina's are supposed to be dry.

Again, something in our planetary oceanic, atmospheric conditions makes a western trough, warm and wet SE happen every year. Dont know what it is, but it ain't Nina and Nino.
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We had nina pattern past few winters but enough atlantic help to keep us wet and warm in January(s).

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Will the Euro change its tune to a more favorable pattern or are we in trouble? Hmm
 
Stevo24 said:
Will the Euro change its tune to a more favorable pattern or are we in trouble? Hmm
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Well, any favorable pattern is coming after the 20th...so we going to need a lot of patience and I know I suck at patience. The next 2-3 weeks going to be painful...the torrential rains aren't going to help.
 
weatherfide said:
Everything looks bleak on ops and ensembles for 14 days. Sucks to waste prime climo on cutters and weak ass CAD. I'll wait until 1/13 and if I don't see a favorable change, this winter is getting called.
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i thought that’s exactly how things were supposed to look? Webb said end of January.
 
weatherfide said:
Everything looks bleak on ops and ensembles for 14 days. Sucks to waste prime climo on cutters and weak ass CAD. I'll wait until 1/13 and if I don't see a favorable change, this winter is getting called.
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Be patient my friend. Good things come to those who wait. I've got a good feeling about Late January and Early February as others have mentioned.
 
SnowNiner said:
The thing is, it's like that every year now isn't it? Even the last several Nina years, they've been wet IIRC, even though Nina's are supposed to be dry.

Again, something in our planetary oceanic, atmospheric conditions makes a western trough, warm and wet SE happen every year. Dont know what it is, but it ain't Nina and Nino.
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The only thing Nino brings us now is rain. Things just don't work like they used to with the way our climate is now. I don't think Nino gives us any more chance at snow than Nina now. It's just pure luck if the timing works out, and it works out less and less.
 
As far as the south, almost every mod-strong El Niño really gets going late Jan-Feb. Aleutian low locking the cold air north seems to be a common issue for the first half. That’s why it was wild seeing Mets hype up Dec lol. Between increasing snowpack to our north and the -NAO as the Greenland block intensifies in accordance to the El Niño signal, we can start getting the necessary cold air to phase with what’s already an active southern jet. Even the overused 2009-10 winter was trash til like late Jan.
 
Brick Tamland said:
The only thing Nino brings us now is rain. Things just don't work like they used to with the way our climate is now. I don't think Nino gives us any more chance at snow than Nina now. It's just pure luck if the timing works out, and it works out less and less.
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I was actually just talking about this a few days ago. Here in GA, when I look at winters dating back to when I first moved here in 06, La Niña has often delivered compared to El Niño or even neutral positive winters. The jet stream configuration tends to be more extreme during -ENSO but when it enables eastern troughing for a few weeks like Jan ‘14/‘18/‘22, it delivers well.
 
SD said:
I'm jumping see you at the bottom
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You were supposed to be consoling! Lol. I'm at the point I'm about to go underwater, at the bottom. This year, next year, SE doesn't snow anymore, heck we can't get a pattern to hold much less a snow storm. I need a submarine at the bottom of the cliff! I'm moving to Seattle.

I'm living in this this thread for a while. ?
 
No offense @griteater the Euro control is terrible. It's right up there with the 384 hr GFS and the 240 hr CMC. We can all pretty much agree the 1st 15 days of Jan are toast for snow here. That wasn't unexpected at all. But it's getting close to do or die time now. We aren't speculating from weeks or months out now. The answer to whether Jan into Feb is going to go as planned is just right around the corner. Within about 10 days we'll be able to see out to the 25th with some accuracy in the pattern. And these west coast dumps and poorly tilted EPO ridges keeping the cold 2 weeks out from the SE have to stop by then.
 
RainlessSnowless & Grumpy said:
All I've been doing on Twitter is blocking people from Seattle or the NE for days now. Interact with one weenie from those areas and Twitter bombards you with them, even though you don't follow them. Yeah I'm salty. Everyone except the SE is feeling good right now. We really suck
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That's right. I just had a bad feeling when we went from 3 straight la Nina's to a strong el Nino and it has been like nothing has ever changed when it came to this winter pattern this fall and winter and it's following the same crappy la Nina pattern just as last year to a tee. No different than last year just a la Nina pattern labeled a el nino. Nothing and different right now. Not giving up hope but might as well and always bet on the troughs going out west and you will always be right until April through Memorial day around the Southeast. In a few weeks I will be at 2 years without a single flake of snow.
 
SnowNiner said:
You were supposed to be consoling! Lol. I'm at the point I'm about to go underwater, at the bottom. This year, next year, SE doesn't snow anymore, heck we can't get a pattern to hold much less a snow storm. I need a submarine at the bottom of the cliff! I'm moving to Seattle.

I'm living in this this thread for a while. ?
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We suck, favorable blocking is a thing of the past, ninos are worse than Nina's, Seattle is the new Duluth, snowcover is irrelevant when you can't get a sfc low south of CAE
 
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