Recent trends on EPO Index from GEFS and EPS

Wish we had someone in GA with data like the above.Things are pretty much evolving as expected overall & this is the best looking pattern we've had in late December since 2010 & it's not even close (of course that isn't saying a whole lot).
Fwiw, on average during Dec-Mar 1948-2021 in NC, we see at least a minor winter storm (accumulating snow or trace of ice) somewhere east of the mountains about once every 13-14 days or so.
When you also pair this with teleconnections, winter weather in NC is ~1.5x more likely than normal when -NAO/-EPO is present (< -0.5 sigma), or about one storm every 8-9 days in Dec-Mar. When -PNA/-EPO is coupled to a +PNA, this jumps to on average about one storm per week, or -NAO/-EPO roughly doubles the climatological odds of winter weather in NC.
If -PNA/-EPO are coupled to -PNA, chances decrease slightly, but are still noticeably above normal w/ one storm occurring on average every 10 days (vs 13-14). Aside from the higher winter storm chances, what's also very noteworthy about -PNA/-EPO/-NAOs compared to +PNA/-EPO/-NAO is there are proportionally many more ice storms w/ -PNA/-EPO/-NAO compared to +PNA/-EPO/-NAO. A snowstorm is ~3x more likely compared to ice in +PNA/-EPO/-NAO, whereas ice is nearly 1.5x-2x more likely than snow during -PNA/-EPO/-NAO.
In summary:
NC (East of Mountains) Daily Winter Storm Chances wrt Climatology & Teleconnections (1948-2021, Dec-Mar)
Climatology: ~7.5% chance of a winter storm per day OR 1 winter storm every ~13-14 days
-NAO (<-0.5σ): ~10% chance of a winter storm per day OR 1 winter storm every ~10 days.
Winter storms are ~25% more likely than normal in NC during Dec-Mar w/ -NAO
-NAO (<-0.5σ)/-EPO (<-0.5σ): ~12% chance of a winter storm per day OR 1 winter storm every ~8 days
Winter storms are ~50% more likely in NC than normal during Dec-Mar w/ -NAO and -EPO
-NAO (<-0.5σ)/-EPO (<-0.5σ)/-PNA (<-0.5σ)
~10% chance of a winter storm per day OR 1 winter storm every ~10 days.
Winter storms are ~25% more likely in NC than normal during Dec-Mar w/ -NAO, -EPO, & -PNA
Ice storms are nearly 1.5x-2x more likely than snowstorms
-NAO (<-0.5σ)/-EPO (<-0.5σ)/+PNA (>+0.5σ)
~14% chance of a winter storm per day OR 1 winter storm every ~7 days.
Winter storms are ~2x more likely in NC than normal during Dec-Mar w/ -NAO, -EPO, & +PNA
Snowstorms are nearly 3x more likely than ice storms
Data source:
I need to update this at some point w/ 2022's data, as well as add on some additional winter storms.
Nov-Apr Daily Teleconnections and NC Winter Storms List (1948-2021)
It's a great feeling when every day 8-10 WPC 500mb anomaly cluster looks awesome
https://origin.wpc.ncep.noaa.gov/hmt/wk2/clusters/view.php?type=3daykmeans&uday=&field=cluster_hgt_500_forecasts®=_conus®str=CONUS
![]()
Source: https://origin.wpc.ncep.noaa.gov/wpc_ensemble_clusters/cluster_analysis.pdfThese tools are incredibly useful for understanding the sources of ensemble uncertainty, identifying extremes, and evaluating potential forecast scenarios via ensemble clusters. The cluster analysis groups 90 ensemble members from the EPS (50), GEFS (30) and CMCE (20) into four clusters based on similarities and dissimilarities amongst these members (more information on this clustering process is provided later).
Very good Eric. Enjoyed the read. InformativeThings are pretty much evolving as expected overall & this is the best looking pattern we've had in late December since 2010 & it's not even close (of course that isn't saying a whole lot).
Fwiw, on average during Dec-Mar 1948-2021 in NC, we see at least a minor winter storm (accumulating snow or trace of ice) somewhere east of the mountains about once every 13-14 days or so.
When you also pair this with teleconnections, winter weather in NC is ~1.5x more likely than normal when -NAO/-EPO is present (< -0.5 sigma), or about one storm every 8-9 days in Dec-Mar. When -PNA/-EPO is coupled to a +PNA, this jumps to on average about one storm per week, or -NAO/-EPO roughly doubles the climatological odds of winter weather in NC.
If -PNA/-EPO are coupled to -PNA, chances decrease slightly, but are still noticeably above normal w/ one storm occurring on average every 10 days (vs 13-14). Aside from the higher winter storm chances, what's also very noteworthy about -PNA/-EPO/-NAOs compared to +PNA/-EPO/-NAO is there are proportionally many more ice storms w/ -PNA/-EPO/-NAO compared to +PNA/-EPO/-NAO. A snowstorm is ~3x more likely compared to ice in +PNA/-EPO/-NAO, whereas ice is nearly 1.5x-2x more likely than snow during -PNA/-EPO/-NAO.
In summary:
NC (East of Mountains) Daily Winter Storm Chances wrt Climatology & Teleconnections (1948-2021, Dec-Mar)
Climatology: ~7.5% chance of a winter storm per day OR 1 winter storm every ~13-14 days
-NAO (<-0.5σ): ~10% chance of a winter storm per day OR 1 winter storm every ~10 days.
Winter storms are ~25% more likely than normal in NC during Dec-Mar w/ -NAO
-NAO (<-0.5σ)/-EPO (<-0.5σ): ~12% chance of a winter storm per day OR 1 winter storm every ~8 days
Winter storms are ~50% more likely in NC than normal during Dec-Mar w/ -NAO and -EPO
-NAO (<-0.5σ)/-EPO (<-0.5σ)/-PNA (<-0.5σ)
~10% chance of a winter storm per day OR 1 winter storm every ~10 days.
Winter storms are ~25% more likely in NC than normal during Dec-Mar w/ -NAO, -EPO, & -PNA
Ice storms are nearly 1.5x-2x more likely than snowstorms
-NAO (<-0.5σ)/-EPO (<-0.5σ)/+PNA (>+0.5σ)
~14% chance of a winter storm per day OR 1 winter storm every ~7 days.
Winter storms are ~2x more likely in NC than normal during Dec-Mar w/ -NAO, -EPO, & +PNA
Snowstorms are nearly 3x more likely than ice storms
Data source:
I need to update this at some point w/ 2022's data, as well as add on some additional winter storms.
Nov-Apr Daily Teleconnections and NC Winter Storms List (1948-2021)
Very good Eric. Enjoyed the read. Informative
One thing, there are a couple places in the top section where it states "if -PNA/-EPO are coupled to -PNA" etc.....here I think you meant to say "if -NAO/-EPO are coupled to -PNA"
This really makes me think we’re gonna have a chance to score a good overrunning event.It's a great feeling when every day 8-10 WPC 500mb anomaly cluster looks awesome
https://origin.wpc.ncep.noaa.gov/hmt/wk2/clusters/view.php?type=3daykmeans&uday=&field=cluster_hgt_500_forecasts®=_conus®str=CONUS
![]()
This really makes me think we’re gonna have a chance to score a good overrunning event.
What causes it to fizzle away?
So close to glory and then it frizzles away.
View attachment 125121
So close to glory and then it frizzles away.
What causes it to fizzle away?
Hmmmm that looks and sounds like something in the past did a few days before in modeling in a similar pattern.So close to glory and then it frizzles away.
View attachment 125121
It's nice to see at least a storm signal during that time frame. Coupled with the teleconnections I think that's the time to watch. Especially for areas east of the mountains.Wave just flattens out. Messy to begin with. Just GFS being the GFS View attachment 125123
I would like to mention how GFS has always had suppression bias, just keep that in mindWave just flattens out. Messy to begin with. Just GFS being the GFS View attachment 125123
Yep. Of course, we would all like to see a monster storm show on the models, but at this range it's all fantasy (in the details). As you said, it's just good to see enough cold air around for some future possibility. So going off that, I like the amount/direction of dry cold air coming out of Canada.It's nice to see at least a storm signal during that time frame. Coupled with the teleconnections I think that's the time to watch. Especially for areas east of the mountains.
Don’t worry - we have Glenn Burns!Wish we had someone in GA with data like the above.
Pretty much lines up with what I was just looking at on the GEFS temp and precip maps. Looks like the GEFS is picking up on another overrunning type deal around 300hrs. Definitely favors the mid-south.Broad based view of the winter storm potential showing up here from the averaged 12z GFS Ensemble members for Dec 17-19
![]()
CMC Ens goes to thisIt keeps going… ,look at that Alaskan ridge ! Holy ----
That’s copy and paste to last January but with a -NAO block… goodnessCMC Ens goes to this
![]()
It looks like that vortex in SE Canada was to far south on that run. I’m not too worried, the important thing in that time is the overall pattern and teleconnections supporting somethingI would think suppression. I heard some people talk about this pattern supporting suppression
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Playing around with late January 2014 with a -NAO. Goodness indeed.That’s copy and paste to last January but with a -NAO block… goodness