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Easy to see where the lefts true heart and compassion reside. Also how the media runs 100% cover for them. Good ole NYT blaming Republicans for this bill not passing.
You guys on here go talk to your neighbor whos unemployed,no paycheck,sitting at home sacrificing right now. Read that 1400 page democrat propssed Pelosi manifesto bill to them.

When you finish see how they respond.
 
New York governor says the peak of pandemic is 14 to 21 days away

New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo said the apex of the coronavirus will be "higher" and "sooner" than experts anticipated — and it could be two or three weeks away.

"We haven’t flattened the curve," he said at a news conference. "The apex is higher than we though and the apex is sooner than we thought. That is a bad combination of facts."

New York revised its estimated needs to 140,000 hospital beds and 40,000 ICU beds.

Currently, the state has 53,000 hospital beds, he said.
 
You can fully reopen the economy but have extreme orders in place. To keep people distance. It’s just figuring out how but it can be done.


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You can fully reopen the economy but have extreme orders in place. To keep people distance. It’s just figuring out how but it can be done.


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You have a customer service call center that is 2200sq feet with 30 employees in cubicles. How do you get those people 6 feet apart and still maintain full staffing?
 
You have a customer service call center that is 2200sq feet with 30 employees in cubicles. How do you get those people 6 feet apart and still maintain full staffing?

Seems like there’s plenty of room to space 30 employees out


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1. Just to clarify, that quote was from David Katz, not Gov Cuomo, himself:

"I am deeply concerned that the social, economic and public health consequences of this near total meltdown of normal life ... [will be] possibly graver than the direct toll of the virus itself." Katz wrote.

From your link:


2. Actually, I agree with David Katz’s quote. He’s saying that the sum of the tolls from social, economic, and health standpoints is greater than the health aspect, itself. Of course it is. Who wouldn’t agree with that? I mean that’s a “duh” statement. But that’s not saying economic trumps health/value of lives.

What if I told you that many people disagree with your last statement, and actually really do believe people should sacrifice/put their lives at risk, in order to save the economy? Yeah, that’s where we are at right now in this unhinged capitalistic system. It’s truly amazing to watch unfold. And incredibly terrifying.
 
What if I told you that many people disagree with your last statement, and actually really do believe people should sacrifice/put their lives at risk, in order to save the economy? Yeah, that’s where we are at right now in this unhinged capitalistic system. It’s truly amazing to watch unfold. And incredibly terrifying.
unhinged capitalistic system? Compared to what?
 
Easy to see where the lefts true heart and compassion reside. Also how the media runs 100% cover for them. Good ole NYT blaming Republicans for this bill not passing.
You guys on here go talk to your neighbor whos unemployed,no paycheck,sitting at home sacrificing right now. Read that 1400 page democrat propssed Pelosi manifesto bill to them.

When you finish see how they respond.
It’s disgusting and most people are naive so will buy that narrative without checking out who is actually holding things up.
 
Per Fox News townhall, Trump was hoping to open things up by Easter (4/12/20). Hopefully, he's just trying to bluff the stock markets up. If this kind of talk is a big factor in market rises, look for reversals of these kind of gains/back and forth rather than sustained rises. He's sending such a confusing signal in talking about opening up while the virus is spreading like wildfire. He's treating this too much like an "either/or" situation and is too much of a "slogans" guy imo. Too black and white.
No Dr. Fauci there. :(
 
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Per Fox News townhall, Trump was hoping to open things up by Easter (4/12/20). Hopefully, he's just trying to bluff the stock markets up. He's sending such a confusing signal in talking about opening up while the virus is spreading like wildfire. He's treating this too much like an "either/or" situation and is too much of a "slogans" guy imo. Too black and white.
No Dr. Fauci there. :(
Thing is if he "opens up the country" the states, which should be doing this anyway, will still have major restrictions in place. It's not like he is going to mandate the states, local governments relax their own restrictions.
 
Per Fox News townhall, Trump was hoping to open things up by Easter (4/12/20). Hopefully, he's just trying to bluff the stock markets up. He's sending such a confusing signal in talking about opening up while the virus is spreading like wildfire. He's treating this too much like an "either/or" situation and is too much of a "slogans" guy imo. Too black and white.
No Dr. Fauci there. :(
I see nothing wrong with "hoping" to open things back up in 3 weeks. he could indeed be bluffing but a lot of good things could change in 3 weeks time. Hopefully enough to hint at things turning a corner
 
Thing is if he "opens up the country" the states, which should be doing this anyway, will still have major restrictions in place. It's not like he is going to mandate the states, local governments relax their own restrictions.

I know. So, from that standpoint, yes he has limited power. But just like there's confusion between nearby cities that have very different restrictions, what about folks living near state borders/metros that cross state lines? So, if Trump were to issue federally mandated restrictions, there wouldn't be confusion near state lines.
 
I see nothing wrong with "hoping" to open things back up in 3 weeks. he could indeed be bluffing but a lot of good things could change in 3 weeks time. Hopefully enough to hint at things turning a corner
Nothing wrong with an optimistic message from a leader....
 
I know. So, from that standpoint, yes he has limited power. But just like there's confusion between nearby cities that have very different restrictions, what about folks living near state borders/metros that cross state lines? So, if Trump were to issue federally mandated restrictions, there wouldn't be confusion near state lines.
I live along the Va/NC border, if Va does shelter in place and NC does not, I'm not going to Va.... it's just not that confusing to me.
 
Nothing wrong with an optimistic message from a leader....
Except when it ignores reality. I feel like him saying we'll be looking better in 3 weeks is to some degree propaganda. Remember how we were in a trade war with China not too long ago? See China opening back up? I feel like that's what could be going on. We have to just see where we are in a couple weeks honestly. Until we turn the corner on case rises we have to hope governors do the right thing unlike here in GA.
 
It's amazing how people believe every article of the MSM without digging to see what the actual truth is. They read one article about Trump not listening to Dr Fauci by the NYT or similar outlet and run with it and criticize Trump. As a good example, here is the actual truth from Dr. Fauci himself. @GaWx I think you will find this interview with Dr. Fauci interesting.

Here are some highlights tweeted by WMAL host Vince Congalese (the discussion of conflict with Trump starts at 6:00 in the audio).

DR. FAUCI: “No, I don’t consider the balancing act… the president has the awesome responsibility of considering every aspect of this. I just give public health advice completely clean, unconnected with anything else. He has to factor in other things.
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FAUCI: “…under very intense discussion. What the president is trying to do is balance the public health issues with the fact this is having an enormous impact on the economy of the country which may actually, indirectly, cause an incredible amount of harm… even health wise.”
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DR. FAUCI says media is trying to “pit” him against
@realDonaldTrump

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“That is really unfortunate. I would wish that that would stop. … there are not differences. The president has listened to what I have said…
The idea of pitting one against the other is just not helpful.”
Source
And here is a tweet with part of the audio from the interview. Dr. Fauci himself has said Trump has listened to everything he has said and has NOT overridden him. Let's stop blindly following the MSM and go to the sources themselves to see what the truth actually is. JMO.


 
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