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snowlover91 said:
Well considering congress can’t get the stimulus bill approved to do some of the stuff you mentioned, like the checks for Americans, not sure we can count on that as a viable option unfortunately.
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Jessy89 said:
Congress and senate would have to agree to pull that off. Good luck with that my 5yr old would be easier to negotiate with then Congress and senate


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Agreed, Congress needs to get it together. I will say though, I'm not in favor of airline bailouts...
 
Shaggy said:
Do me a favor. Find an old couple preferably married for 50+ years. Tell them you would like the economy to get back on track and that in order to do that they need to suck it up and risk everything for the STOCK market.

After one of them succumbs to the virus look the surviving one in the face and say "thanks for your sacrifice I just bought a new 60 inch TV"

Some of yall disappoint me.
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Even better; look the couple in the face and explain to them why their Son/Daughter and grand children have all just died in a fire while trying to warm their house because their Son/Daughter lost their job and haven't been able to pay the utilities. And then tell that same couple because they didn't listen and adhere to social distancing and insisted on having their Son/Daughter and grand children around them before the highly at-risk population was given the green light to mingle one of them now has the virus and will die.

This is all a bunch of b.s.; trying to put blame for even one death depending on which decision is made.

Why don't we just ban alchohol completely given the extreme toll it takes on life every single day of every single year?

Why don't we ban abortion; it kills millions of lives every single year?
 
Webberweather53 said:
The chance of an outbreak re-emerging w/ a potentially more virulent mutated strain of the coronavirus in the fall if we lift restrictions too early is deeply concerning to me.
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So there will be a vaccine by fall if we continue with restrictions for at least another month or more? And if we lift those restrictions the virus will mutate; got it. So there's no chance of it mutating after the vaccine is developed and the entire population of the US is inoculated and we make sure we keep our borders closed or make sure we check every single person entering the country to ensure they don't have the virus. Got it.

Any infectious disease experts on here want to weigh in?

..... crickets....

Oh that's right; they're all busy trying to solve the problem and don't have time to post drivel..
 
LetItSnow said:
So there will be a vaccine by fall if we continue with restrictions for at least another month or more? And if we lift those restrictions the virus will mutate; got it. So there's no chance of it mutating after the vaccine is developed and the entire population of the US is inoculated and we make sure we keep our borders closed or make sure we check every single person entering the country to ensure they don't have the virus. Got it.

Any infectious disease experts on here want to weigh in?

..... crickets....

Oh that's right; they're all busy trying to solve the problem and don't have time to post drivel..
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Even @Jon who's the closest thing to a qualified medical expert on this virus we have on this forum, has mentioned the very real possibility of new strains emerging in the fall multiple times in fact, it's far from being drivel as you've blindly asserted.

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Yeah. I’m more concerned about a more severe outbreak next fall. Here are the scenarios:
- No vaccine
- vaccine made but it’s not ready in time (we need two weeks to build immunity to a vaccine, so timing will be important)
- vaccine is made and on time (highly unlikely), but is a poor match (in general, flu shots are 50% effective when we are talking best-case scenario)"

https://southernwx.com/community/threads/coronavirus.696/page-127#post-258421

"Yeah I agree I don’t think it will die off, it will definitely pick back up by fall and by then we’d really need a vaccine."

https://southernwx.com/community/threads/coronavirus.696/page-65#post-255108
 
Shaggy said:
This guy and Hillary were the best America could put up in 2016. So not ok
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Do you really think he and now Cuomo are going to actually risk hundreds of thousands of American lives without understanding the ramifications of such a move? Im sure I know your answer but at some point you have to start using some common sense
 
Sandbar said:
Do you really think he and now Cuomo are going to actually risk hundreds of thousands of American lives without understanding the ramifications of such a move? Im sure I know your answer but at some point you have to start using some common sense
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I dont know what to expect from piss poor narcissistic leadership.
 
Sandbar said:
I know everybody has an opinion but what the hell would you really know about leadership? Especially involving something like this. You have pre-programmed yourself to hate anything he says or does so I guess its to be expected
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If I need a ride to work and someone offers me that ride but fails to show up 3 days in a row I am within reason to conclude the person isnt trustworthy.

Donald trump has proven time after time that he acts in his own best interest over and over. It is within reason to believe he will do the same here.

This is donald trumps fault for not being trustworthy. You are blinded by trump love and that's ok. We all have rights to have our opinions .
 
Downeastnc said:
Yeah at this point if you have to pick a direction to go in go total lockdown.....Trump NEEDS the economy to recover, he NEEDS the stock market to bounce back, because without them he is not going to even have a chance at winning in Nov.....so as usual Trump is listening to the advisors that tell him what he WANTS to hear and ignores the ones he should be listening too.....Trump is not capable of making decisions that are the best for everyone as he looks at things from a me first perspective always....so all you grandparents out there sorry you have to die so your grandkids can have a good economy.....

The crazy part is that if we stuck to the plan and even went total lockdown for a 2-3 week period it would actually make it better faster...we would be coming out of it with a better handle on the drug cocktails after they had been tested better, the number of cases would hopefully be flattened leveled off, the death rate would be lower, etc etc, this would ultimately be better for the economy as it would give a better sense of stability. The sign of a effective leader is making the call and then sticking with it, Trump should not even have mentioned anything about letting up till the end of the 15 day plan....i
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Shaggy said:
If I need a ride to work and someone offers me that ride but fails to show up 3 days in a row I am within reason to conclude the person isnt trustworthy.

Donald trump has proven time after time that he acts in his own best interest over and over. It is within reason to believe he will do the same here.

This is donald trumps fault for not being trustworthy. You are blinded by trump love and that's ok. We all have rights to have our opinions .
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No sir. I am blinded by the love for my COUNTRY! Always have and always will. I spilled blood and tears for her. ALL politicians act in their own best interest. Some just choose to include their fellow countrymen which is the case with your current president!
 
Webberweather53 said:
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It will be interesting to see if those polls change over the coming weeks.

This quote is from the article I posted.

Karlyn Bowman, public opinion analyst and senior fellow at the American Enterprise Institute, says the poll could be reflecting the "rally-round effect."

"Publics tend to rally around their presidents in time of national emergency, and it's something we've observed in many situations," Bowman told The Hill.
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And then we have this article.

Trump has seen an uptick in his approval rating over the past two weeks, even as the daily White House briefings have had a circus-like atmosphere and the president’s claims have been picked apart.
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thehill.com

Biden under pressure to step up coronavirus response

Former Vice President Joe Biden is under pressure to find new ways to command the spotlight amid criticism that he’s cut too low of a profile as the coronavirus crisis has worsened.Some Democrats w…
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Arcc said:
He is really not alone.

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Cuomo is being taken way out of context here. Unlike what Trump said, Cuomo last night (I saw his interview) also qualified that we can’t keep it closed forever (which we all agree with) with the idea that getting the virus under control was first priority BEFORE considering opening things back up. He explicitly emphasized the value of human lives as being first and foremost. He most certainly is still looking at this similarly to before (get virus under control before opening back up) and not at all similar to what Trump said yesterday.

Lumping Cuomo with Trump (saying Trump is not alone) here is flat out deceptive and inaccurate!
 
In regards to opening everything back up and letting the economy run at the end of the 15 day period.

We haven't even closed it yet. We don't even have full testing capabilities yet.

Great Britain just shut down their entire country. Several others have as well. Wuhan is still locked down.

Hate to break it to people but this is just the beginning. The Trump 'base' has mostly not felt real significant pain from this yet. Look at most of the flyover states that vote Red and the majority of the Southeast. They have very few cases when compared to some of the larger coastal cities.

If you open everything before we get caught up with testing, and get some actual clinical trial results from treatment, all you are going to see on TV is nurses and doctors begging people to stay home as hospitals become overrun. I hate to think that is what it's going to take before some Americans, who feel so entitled that this can't to happen us, finally wake up.

I'll try to leave on a positive note. Here is another possible treatment that is effective in treating Covid-19.

www.theguardian.com

Japanese flu drug 'clearly effective' in treating coronavirus, says China

Shares in Fujifilm Toyama Chemical, which developed favipiravir, surged after praise by Chinese official
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