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Webberweather53 said:
A shutdown of 15 days is going to be nowhere close to sufficient to contain this virus, just look at the second wave of cases showing up in China now when they lifted their bans, anyone with half a brain could put 2 and 2 together and realize we're gonna need at a bare minimum, a shut down lasting thru basically most of the summer to contain the virus and prevent secondary outbreaks.
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This is going to be unprecedented and one that will go down the history books for decades to come. Life WILL NOT go back to normal for a long time. I think people really need to prepare, not just for staying inside for long periods of time. But as well for thier mental health.
 
ATLien said:
Are you saying that republicans want to help the average citizen and not corporations? The democrats are the only ones who want to require that corporations who receive bailout money not layoff workers as a condition of receiving that money. There was NO protection for the average person in the republican's bill. It was solely aimed at the c-suite and not the average person.
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Yeah given what my dad explained to me early while we were in the car, I think this is much more about both sides choosing to thumb their noses and stick to their agenda instead of actually trying to get something done. Republicans mostly caring about big corporations (there was someone in a chat I hang out in straight up calling what they want in the bill a slush fund and they claim to be what someone in here calls is impossible, a neither-sider), democrats asking for airlines to lower carbon footprints, tax credits for solar panels in a bill that's supposed to be bailing out the country's economy.

Both sides are being selfish here, sorry. It's not one side. Don't care if you disagree with me.
 
Webberweather53 said:
Deep in his mind, he also likely cares more about the stock market more than people's lives.
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Many people's lives and savings are intertwined with the stock market. Those who depend upon their savings and have seen it cut in half or a third for example due to the stock market crash or those who are near retirement and have seen their 401k plummet. The anxiety, fear, depression, increased suicides, etc that can be triggered by big market crashes like this can have a profound effect on the lives of those who depend heavily upon the stock market.
 
Jessy89 said:
Pelosi cares more about political agenda then passing a stimulus


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If you read between the lines, the reason the democrats aren't passing a stimulus likely is because the one being offered by repbulicans is far from enough. These are some of the stipulations in the original bill that weren't included...

Pick your poison here, would rather turn in a sloppy bill really quickly that doesn't protect workers, gives zero money local and state governments to assist in the crisis, no emergency leave from work (ouch), gives no relief to federal student loan borrowers like myself, only provides payments to those who filed tax returns in the last few years, the stipulations only last 3 months which is nowhere near long enough, and the list goes on. It would be best if everyone did a little research before pointing figures at one party or the other. Both are equally at fault here.


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Jessy89 said:
Trumps stance early own was to not cause panic. In his mind he knew it was a pandemic


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The panic happened anyway. States and cities are shutting down, the stock market has taken a nose dive, grocery stores are out of certain items and you are restricted on what items you can buy. What did his denying this was a serious threat prevent?

I fail to see how anyone can defend his inaction and denial for weeks. The only thing Trump did was put a travel ban in place that obviously had little effect on slowing down the spread of this virus. Other than that, the only thing Trump appeared to do was put his head in the sand.


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Webberweather53 said:
If you read between the lines, the reason the democrats aren't passing a stimulus likely is because the one being offered by repbulicans is far from enough. These are some of the stipulations in the original bill that weren't included...

Pick your poison here, would rather turn in a sloppy bill really quickly that doesn't protect workers, gives zero money local and state governments to assist in the crisis, no emergency leave from work (ouch), gives no relief to federal student loan borrowers like myself, only provides payments to those who filed tax returns in the last few years, the stipulations only last 3 months which is nowhere near long enough, and the list goes on. It would be best if everyone did a little research before pointing figures at one party or the other. Both are equally at fault here.


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But there trying to get solar panels done as well as green new deal. Come on Democrats should not be doing that


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TFRS02 said:
The panic happened anyway. States and cities are shutting down, the stock market has taken a nose dive, grocery stores are out of certain items and you are restricted on what items you can buy. What did his denying this was a serious threat prevent?

I fail to see how anyone can defend his inaction and denial for weeks. The only thing Trump did was put a travel ban in place that obviously had little effect on slowing down the spread of this virus. Other than that, the only thing Trump appeared to do was put his head in the sand.


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Handled this better the Obama did H1N1


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snowlover91 said:
Many people's lives and savings are intertwined with the stock market. Those who depend upon their savings and have seen it cut in half or a third for example due to the stock market crash or those who are near retirement and have seen their 401k plummet. The anxiety, fear, depression, increased suicides, etc that can be triggered by big market crashes like this can have a profound effect on the lives of those who depend heavily upon the stock market.
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I legitimately think he cares about the American public, but his heart really isn't in it compared to the stock market. It's the equivalent of a parent-child relationship, sure you bringing money in to support your family is critical for their survival and loss of that income could be cataclysmic and devastating, but it's still also possible to care more about the balance of your check book than your kid.
 
Webberweather53 said:
If you read between the lines, the reason the democrats aren't passing a stimulus likely is because the one being offered by repbulicans is far from enough. These are some of the stipulations in the original bill that weren't included...

Pick your poison here, would rather turn in a sloppy bill really quickly that doesn't protect workers, gives zero money local and state governments to assist in the crisis, no emergency leave from work (ouch), gives no relief to federal student loan borrowers like myself, only provides payments to those who filed tax returns in the last few years, the stipulations only last 3 months which is nowhere near long enough, and the list goes on. It would be best if everyone did a little research before pointing figures at one party or the other. Both are equally at fault here.


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Those are legitimate concerns that can be worked out by both sides and relate to this crisis. However, the additional pork Pelosi is pushing like pay comparison disparity, risk-limiting audits of results of elections, same day voter registration, airlines must offset carbon emissions, requiring airlines to provide GHG emission info to customers, etc. have absolutely no relevance to the crisis at hand.
 
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Cause a climate change study is needed in this bill
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ryan1234 said:
This is going to be unprecedented and one that will go down the history books for decades to come. Life WILL NOT go back to normal for a long time. I think people really need to prepare, not just for staying inside for long periods of time. But as well for thier mental health.
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You stay in the house all summer. I wont be. I can promise you life for most of us will be back to normal by the time the trees leave out. To each his own...….
 
Webberweather53 said:
If you read between the lines, the reason the democrats aren't passing a stimulus likely is because the one being offered by repbulicans is far from enough. These are some of the stipulations in the original bill that weren't included...

Pick your poison here, would rather turn in a sloppy bill really quickly that doesn't protect workers, gives zero money local and state governments to assist in the crisis, no emergency leave from work (ouch), gives no relief to federal student loan borrowers like myself, only provides payments to those who filed tax returns in the last few years, the stipulations only last 3 months which is nowhere near long enough, and the list goes on. It would be best if everyone did a little research before pointing figures at one party or the other. Both are equally at fault here.


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Why would Republicans wake up today and want funds to help with the treatment of the uninsured? They never have before. (coming from someone who has voted Republican about 80% of his life) This is an area they completely fail. They don't like anyone else's plan but also don't come up with their own. Which tells me it's a big middle finger to the less fortunate.
 
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