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Wintry Winter Discussion 2023/24

I know it's way out there, but the euro seasonal came in hot for east of the rockies for winter!?
 
Shouldn’t be much of a suprise to be honest . How much above average is the key …given the strength of the nino forecasted
Has anybody actually seen the output or are we all going off of Mr. Golf's comment?
 

TY! Like the storm track. At least with the temp outlook, there isn't a bunch of red around. Good signals so far. Now, if we can just get the CFS on board. It continues to look like it normally does, hot until March and April.

Wonder what the Japanese and the Brazilian are showing?
 
I’m waiting to see how much the ts/hurricane season affects sst’s. A lot of variables and far beyond my grasp but I’m not sure we have had an El Niño like this in regards to those!
 
Lots of 35-40 degree rain events! Atleast Miller B’s should be harder to come by!
Miller B’s still seem to happen in Niños. I know that the biggest storms of the El Niños in 2002-03 and 2009-10 were Miller Bs
 
Miller B’s still seem to happen in Niños. I know that the biggest storms of the El Niños in 2002-03 and 2009-10 were Miller Bs
Yeah, it seems there were many events, spread out, during those years. Tracking storms is half the fun. Hopefully this year we have a lot of tracking opportunities.

 
Why would you think that? These maps show a general pattern that typically gives Charlotte a few snow opportunities in the winter.
Because the difference between this Nino's winter and the previous one is the absence of locking Arctic Air in Canada and the oceanic heatwaves in the northern Atlantic and Pacific.
 
The last El Niño in 2019-20 saw Canada flooded with mild air for the first half of the winter and Charlotte still had some very close calls. All El Niños are different but climo says that Charlotte should still have a couple chances. Heck even the Super Niños of 97-98, 2015-16 still gave Charlotte a couple of events.
 
The last El Niño in 2019-20 saw Canada flooded with mild air for the first half of the winter and Charlotte still had some very close calls. All El Niños are different but climo says that Charlotte should still have a couple chances. Heck even the Super Niños of 97-98, 2015-16 still gave Charlotte a couple of events.
All those years you pointed didn't have record ocean heatwaves. This isn't a good look going into the winter

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I believe we are going to have a major 85 corridor special from ATL up to New England, and some ice storm events as well.
 
Have to admit I'm a little worried about the el nino being too strong. But I still think we'll get our chances nevertheless.
A lot of NC/SC snow events, came during strong El Niño’s
 
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