As someone who has encountered more than my share of angry neighborhood dogs during my workout jogs, it would be nice to make some kind of Stand your Ground Laws for those being attacked by dogs with negligent owners, rather than getting charged with dog murder, should I ever be faced with that painful choice. And what about road kills?
Realistically, because the voting pool is so large and populated with people that aren't really paying attention, it means one of the two bad choices will win. How come we are only presented with two bad options each election cycle? Sure, we could vote for a 3rd party, although that may make you feel better for awhile, but one of the other two main parties will get their candidate elected anyway. Then, all of us moral do-gooders will suffer the consequences anyway.
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The owner should be charged with aggravated assault. If you kill the threatening dog, the human owner should still be charged with aggravated assault. In my eyes, you may be open to a civil suit for loss of or damage to property, but you have not committed a crime. Now, even if the dog is not threatening, just sitting at the side of the road, and you shoot it with your S&W .380 BodyGuard pistol, just cause you hate dogs, then you are still open to the civil suit, but should not have committed a criminal act. You should buy the owner a new dog and possibly pay some punitive damages for his loss, but it's not a life for a life thing.
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I can't speak for @weatherfide but he did say that does not mean he supports cruelty to animals but rather strongly opposes it. Problem I have with this law and the scenario are two things: 1) the law will almost certainly get twisted by animal rights activist at some point to convict someone of killing an animal that has just cause (whether for food or self defense or protection of property), your example would need more context to debate and 2) we legalize the killing of unborn children in this country but will send a person to prison for killing an animal. Ok haters, fire at will....
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I can't speak for @weatherfide but he did say that does not mean he supports cruelty to animals but rather strongly opposes it. Problem I have with this law and the scenario are two things: 1) the law will almost certainly get twisted by animal rights activist at some point to convict someone of killing an animal that has just cause (whether for food or self defense or protection of property), your example would need more context to debate and 2) we legalize the killing of unborn children in this country but will send a person to prison for killing an animal. Ok haters, fire at will....
That is just crazy talk. There is zero proof that Trump has done a thing wrong. You just don't like him. No crimes. No crystal balls to predict that he is going flip into some dictator. Actually, what do you think is going to happen and why do you think he would be going through all of this to try and "fool" people? For what? What is the outcome? Also, I can guarantee that if he hadn't been immediately hit by the establishment/media he would not do and say the things he does. He may not be all soft and fluffy and people may not like it, but if he gets punched, he's punching back. Unbelievable what he has went through just to help this country...I don't recall seeing severed head depictions, gruesome stabbing depiction signs, big balloons with a diaper on, antifa etc etc with any past President. Do you like that stuff? It's unacceptable and I guess I would fight like a cornered one-eyed dog too. Wouldn't you? When all is said and done justice for the corrupt will prevail and that is good for us all. The fear mongering about Hitler etc with people is so unfortunate. Most people are living fine and happy day to day..
You cant just kill a dog and buy the owner a new dog and expect everything to be ok. If you intentionally kill a dog that has not harmed or threatened you in any way, you should face at least 6 months in jail.
I agree somewhat. I'm not sold on the idea that a corporation counts as a person when giving money to political causes. I think of course businesses should be able to protect themself and give accordingly to support their cause, but there has to be a better way to do it.
I'm actually against lobbying and special interests groups. But I think it should be okay for corporations to give money to a candidate that they choose that best represents their ability to be able to do business.
How about instead of shooting it try to find someone who actually wants it ? Maybe a friend or something.
Ever heard of a rescue?
Better question is, has the person dropping the animal off or letting it go wild ever heard of a rescue? Why is it the land owner's responsibility to "rescue" someone else's bad decision?
Sometimes you just have to do the right thing, even if it is a little bit of an inconvenience.
Killing it is not the answer either.
Huh? Ok....
I mean lets be honest, there are some humans who's life is not as valuable as a dog. You think Hitler's life was more valuable ?
True and training an animal improperly then dumping it on my property isn't going to end with that animal at an overcrowded shelter. Sorry, I've got livestock and animals of my own to protect as well.
Well I didn't mean for the way it came out.. I am against actual lobbyists that Lobby on behalf of companies. But I'm okay with companies giving campaign donations to pro-business candidates. I'm talking about lobbyists that are employed by lobbying firms.
I think the problem lies in who decides it's "cruel" behavior? What if I post a video of my cat living outdoors (because she chooses to run outside every chance she gets) and some observer thinks it is cruel to leave cats outdoors? Do I get arrested first and then have to convince a jury that it's not cruel? The law is bad all the way around. Animals don't have rights.
