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Jimmy Hypocracy said:
I like to give false information to the polling centers when they ask me who I support as a presidential candidate
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They called me and I asked if Gary Johnson was on and they said no. So then I asked which candidate supported marijuana legalization and they told me anyone on the left. I barely had to bait them into skewing my opinion.

Yeah. Not biased polls AT ALL.
 
So when is the hammer gonna fall on Trump.....lol. Looks to me like the BS is just circling the drain like always. They should throw every single one of those corrupt Democrats in jail.
 
Sandbar said:
So when is the hammer gonna fall on Trump.....lol. Looks to me like the BS is just circling the drain like always. They should throw every single one of those corrupt Democrats in jail.
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Hope you set s standard and stick to it in the future. If we leave this situation without holding the president responsible in some way and then the next democrat does something you dont like you will have ZERO credit and nothing to stand on.
 
Honestly imo while Trump is nowhere close to being a good president, he is also nowhere close to being the monster a lot of the left view him as.

He has honestly not done anything we shouldn't have expected from him. He's a loudmouth attention seeker who seems to care more about his social media presence than getting stuff done. As for the impeachment stuff, I honestly do not care.

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Shaggy said:
Hope you set s standard and stick to it in the future. If we leave this situation without holding the president responsible in some way and then the next democrat does something you dont like you will have ZERO credit and nothing to stand on.
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If holding a President or any other politician "responsible" to the point of impeachment for this crap is YOUR STANDARD, then I'm afraid you will have very few politicians representing you in the future. I have no problems with holding someone responsible; I spent my entire military career living by that, but I know the difference between a serious crime and jaywalking and the Trump hating crowd (you included) needs to come with grips that you cant just impeach someone for hating them.....and that's just what you guys/gals are asking for
 
Sandbar said:
If holding a President or any other politician "responsible" to the point of impeachment for this crap is YOUR STANDARD, then I'm afraid you will have very few politicians representing you in the future. I have no problems with holding someone responsible; I spent my entire military career living by that, but I know the difference between a serious crime and jaywalking and the Trump hating crowd (you included) needs to come with grips that you cant just impeach someone for hating them.....and that's just what you guys/gals are asking for
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Pay attention on Wednesday theres gonna be quite a few people with infinitely more knowledge than any of us explaining exactly why what trump has done isnt just jaywalking.
 
Shaggy said:
Pay attention on Wednesday theres gonna be quite a few people with infinitely more knowledge than any of us explaining exactly why what trump has done isnt just jaywalking.
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Yeah ive been hearing that garbage for 3 years now. Its might be different garbage but its the same message and intent. We hate Trump and the millions of you that voted him in and are thriving can suck an egg. They will stop at nothing because thats what you do when you know you arent going to win at the ballot box next November......
 
Shaggy said:
Hope you set s standard and stick to it in the future. If we leave this situation without holding the president responsible in some way and then the next democrat does something you dont like you will have ZERO credit and nothing to stand on.
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Eh, that precedent has long been set.
 
Looks like Joe "Kids love to sit on my lap" Biden is probably gonna become nominee.

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A lot (Most in this case) of these candidates jump in so they can have a say in pushing the parties agenda. It just so happens that most of them have gone so far left of lunacy with the socialist tendencies, that most voters with an once of common sense are just not going to vote. Biden has no shot at beating Trump I don't care what any poll says. Bloomberg has a good shot at sneaking on but he wont beat Trump either. Our nation is rolling and even most Trump haters aren't going to deny that. Those that can't stomach voting for Trump because of their "emotions" will just stay at home replaced by somebody that wouldn't normally vote for him but doesn't want this economy touched.
 
Sandbar said:
A lot (Most in this case) of these candidates jump in so they can have a say in pushing the parties agenda. It just so happens that most of them have gone so far left of lunacy with the socialist tendencies, that most voters with an once of common sense are just not going to vote. Biden has no shot at beating Trump I don't care what any poll says. Bloomberg has a good shot at sneaking on but he wont beat Trump either. Our nation is rolling and even most Trump haters aren't going to deny that. Those that can't stomach voting for Trump because of their "emotions" will just stay at home replaced by somebody that wouldn't normally vote for him but doesn't want this economy touched.
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Biden has a good chance though a better one if the stock market/economy isn't still soaring. Many folks, including some right of center folks like me think Trump is loony and/or a babbling idiot who has no clue what he is doing. Trump needs to go.
 
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GaWx said:
Biden has a good chance though a better one if the stock market/economy isn't still soaring. Many folks think Trump is loony and/or a babbling idiot who has no clue what he is doing.
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When is the last time half the people didn't think that about the President? Its been a long time. The fact is most people of sound mind that work for their money vote with their wallet. Bills, retirement, etc....Sure their are some people that wish Mr. Rodgers was living in the White House but that just isn't going to be reality
 
Sandbar said:
When is the last time half the people didn't think that about the President? Its been a long time. The fact is most people of sound mind that work for their money vote with their wallet. Bills, retirement, etc....Sure their are some people that wish Mr. Rodgers was living in the White House but that just isn't going to be reality
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I don't want Mr. Rogers. I want someone like Reagan, someone with class, someone who doesn't ramble, someone who doesn't constantly lie, someone who isn't more concerned about himself than the country, someone who at least shows some care about the other half, someone who wants to make a more unified country again as opposed to just making the red nation great again, someone who doesn't belittle others like Trump did to John McCain (who unlike him actually served in the military) and did to others with childish nicknames....

Edit: Someone who doesn't criticize his predecessor for playing too much golf and then plays even more, himself!
 
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GaWx said:
I don't want Mr. Rogers. I want someone like Reagan, someone with class, someone who doesn't ramble, someone who doesn't constantly lie, someone who isn't more concerned about himself than the country, someone who at least shows some care about the other half, someone who wants to make a more unified country again as opposed to just making the red nation great again, someone who doesn't belittle others like Trump did to John McCain (who unlike him actually served in the military) and did to others with childish nicknames....

Edit: Someone who doesn't criticize his predecessor for playing too much golf and then plays even more, himself!
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I dont form any kind of personal connection with politicians and I got to meet Clinton and Bush while serving. I dont like Trumps demeanor so I remedy that by living my life, catching up on missed family time over the years and working. Due to the nature of my work now, I dont do social media and I make sure not to get caught up in the BS the media peddles on all subjects so I guess its easier fir me to filter out the emotions that come with politics. You can obviously devide for yourself whats a lie, whats childish name calling and what and whether someone ir something divides the country but I think you have misjudged if you think Trump doesn't care about anything but himself. That is just nonsense
 
Sandbar said:
I dont form any kind of personal connection with politicians and I got to meet Clinton and Bush while serving. I dont like Trumps demeanor so I remedy that by living my life, catching up on missed family time over the years and working. Due to the nature of my work now, I dont do social media and I make sure not to get caught up in the BS the media peddles on all subjects so I guess its easier fir me to filter out the emotions that come with politics. You can obviously devide for yourself whats a lie, whats childish name calling and what and whether someone ir something divides the country but I think you have misjudged if you think Trump doesn't care about anything but himself. That is just nonsense
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I didn't say that he only cares about himself. I said he cares more about himself than the country.
 
GaWx said:
I didn't say that he only cares about himself. I said he cares more about himself than the country.
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Ok.....lol. He loves his country. He loves himself a tad bit more. Thats not the end of the world.....and of course you didnt say it was the end of the world!
 
Sandbar said:
When is the last time half the people didn't think that about the President? Its been a long time. The fact is most people of sound mind that work for their money vote with their wallet. Bills, retirement, etc....Sure their are some people that wish Mr. Rodgers was living in the White House but that just isn't going to be reality
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Um, the previous president? Compare Obama and Trump speaking and well....there is no comparison.
 
crecre9 said:
Um, the previous president? Compare Obama and Trump speaking and well....there is no comparison.
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Very True, Trump speaks bad and lies a lot and Obama spoke really well and lied a lot. Oh wait, I guess stepping in green dog poop is just as bad as yellow dog poop.
 
crecre9 said:
Um, the previous president? Compare Obama and Trump speaking and well....there is no comparison.
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A lot of families that struggled during the Obama years. Im sure it made them feel a lot better knowing he gave great speeches. Obama was awesome at playing President. Not very good at actually being President but organizing communities for a living isnt the best occupation for running the country
 
A lot of families are struggling now and don't need their "leaders" antagonizing them. Sounds like you agree with me though, which makes me wonder why you said the comment in the first place.
 
Nunes had several calls with Parnas as indicated by phone records....Nunes should be made to step away from the impeachment process as he is likely going to be implicated as one of the people actually involved in setting this entire thing up. The timing of the calls matches up with Parnas's claim he organized a trip to the Ukraine for Nunes with the goal of getting the Ukraine to go after Biden....I am sure Nunes did not call the Ukrainian fixer/money man to exchange recipes.....also apparently Parnas has tapes of calls he had with Giuliani, Trump etc...which he is or will turn over to the House....
 
crecre9 said:
A lot of families are struggling now and don't need their "leaders" antagonizing them. Sounds like you agree with me though, which makes me wonder why you said the comment in the first place.
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How exactly are these folks being antagonized? If most people just shut off their access to the BS being fed them they would have little to nothing to complaign about. If you are struggling in this economy you were struggling 4 years ago, 8 years ago and you will more than likely be struggling 8 years from now. Thats just reality. Its unfortunate but the truth. If you folks would just enjoy the prosperity we are in and stop making yourself miserable blaming Trump your strees level would certainly decrease
 
Downeastnc said:
Nunes had several calls with Parnas as indicated by phone records....Nunes should be made to step away from the impeachment process as he is likely going to be implicated as one of the people actually involved in setting this entire thing up. The timing of the calls matches up with Parnas's claim he organized a trip to the Ukraine for Nunes with the goal of getting the Ukraine to go after Biden....I am sure Nunes did not call the Ukrainian fixer/money man to exchange recipes.....also apparently Parnas has tapes of calls he had with Giuliani, Trump etc...which he is or will turn over to the House....
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If only the liberal media put as much effort in uncovering the actual criminals in all of this........
 
Sandbar said:
How exactly are these folks being antagonized? If most people just shut off their access to the BS being fed them they would have little to nothing to complaign about. If you are struggling in this economy you were struggling 4 years ago, 8 years ago and you will more than likely be struggling 8 years from now. Thats just reality. Its unfortunate but the truth. If you folks would just enjoy the prosperity we are in and stop making yourself miserable blaming Trump your strees level would certainly decrease
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So in you're opinion, people who are struggling economically right always have be and always will be? Just what is it you are trying to say? I'm sure the folks who can't afford to put food on the table or a roof over their kid's heads are really going to "enjoy the prosperity." Also, who is "you folks?"
 
crecre9 said:
So in you're opinion, people who are struggling economically right always have be and always will be? Just what is it you are trying to say? I'm sure the folks who can't afford to put food on the table or a roof over their kid's heads are really going to "enjoy the prosperity." Also, who is "you folks?"
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Sorry but I am just being realistic with you. Im not trying to imply that struggling people can't move up the economic ladder (They can) but if you are still struggling in an economic boom of this magnitude what is going to change with a change in the white house? Socialism? Why is it that people who struggle for decades only voice their displeasures publically when a Republican is in charge? Is it just easier to struggle if a Democrat is in power? "You folks" are the ones that can't seem to grasp that the economy we are in (The Trump Economy) is breaking records and you are trying your best to insure he isn't re-elected because his personal behavior causes your emotions to unravel
 
Flurry said:
Sandbar...You're talking to some brick walls on here...I feel your pain, too
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I agree but I'm sure some of them consider me a brick wall too! I like to at least here other people's side of it so I can attempt to gain some understanding
 
Democrats are soliciting staged responses from cherry picked “constitutional experts” on live television.. this, in itself, is a disservice to democracy. All in an effort to sway the opinion of the public which does not support the impeachment of 45.
 
Jimmy Hypocracy said:
Democrats are soliciting staged responses from cherry picked “constitutional experts” on live television.. this, in itself, is a disservice to democracy. All in an effort to sway the opinion of the public which does not support the impeachment of 45.
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Your opinion?
 
Jimmy Hypocracy said:
Democrats are soliciting staged responses from cherry picked “constitutional experts” on live television.. this, in itself, is a disservice to democracy. All in an effort to sway the opinion of the public which does not support the impeachment of 45.
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Dont worry about them. They got some from the extremely liberal university of Chapel Hill. Opinions dont matter in a case of impeachment. The senate will shut this down dead on arrival. Schiff and Pelosi both lied on record and that will be what the senate bases its decision on. What is said is whats important, not factless based opinions on it.
 
Rosie said:
Your opinion?
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This is just another partisan battle. It’s not about the constitution. It’s another smear campaign because the first 10 didn’t seem to work out. The left wants the right on the defense going into the November election. They know impeachment is off the table. They are tar and feathering 45 and have been since 2016. You know, the people would be more inclined to listen to the case against Trump and Ukraine If weren’t preceded by umpteen other attempts to overthrow DJT from office.
 
Jimmy Hypocracy said:
This is just another partisan battle. It’s not about the constitution. It’s another smear campaign because the first 10 didn’t seem to work out. The left wants the right on the defense going into the November election. They know impeachment is off the table. They are tar and feathering 45 and have been since 2016. You know, the people would be more inclined to listen to the case against Trump and Ukraine If weren’t preceded by umpteen other attempts to overthrow DJT from office.
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A case of the "cry wolf"
 
Avalanche said:
Dont worry about them. They got some from the extremely liberal university of Chapel Hill. Opinions dont matter in a case of impeachment. The senate will shut this down dead on arrival. Schiff and Pelosi both lied on record and that will be what the senate bases its decision on. What is said is whats important, not factless based opinions on it.
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Do nothing Mitch and his senate.
 
I see nothing wrong with investigating Ukraine. In fact they should double down it. Only problem is they are investigating the wrong person for the wrong crime.......It's a last ditch effort because winning the actual 2020 election based on ideas is a no go.
 
Jimmy Hypocracy said:
Democrats are soliciting staged responses from cherry picked “constitutional experts” on live television.. this, in itself, is a disservice to democracy. All in an effort to sway the opinion of the public which does not support the impeachment of 45.
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Have you researched Turley and his words during the Clinton impeachment? He is no better a witness than the democrat experts. He has flip flopped a full 180. He is a hypocrite.
 
Sandbar said:
I see nothing wrong with investigating Ukraine. In fact they should double down it. Only problem is they are investigating the wrong person for the wrong crime.......It's a last ditch effort because winning the actual 2020 election based on ideas is a no go.
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This was not about investigating Ukraine it was about investigating the Biden's who according the the Ukrainians didnt do anything to even be investigated for. Trump and Rudy got played by Firtash/Shokin/Lutsenko etc....they were fed a bunch of promises that they could make Ukraine seem like the bad guy in 2016, Trump knows the score on Russian influence heck he welcomes it and he knows they are helping him again and he is desperate to make it seem like the whole Russian meddling thing was a Dem lie etc.

Whether you like it or not, whether you face the truth of the issue or not, Trump is and was using his office as President of the USA to force/extort/bribe a foreign government to go after his political rivals and DIRECTLY interfere with the US presidential election....that is what actually happened......its not conjecture, its not wishful thinking on the Dems part, it is exactly what Trump did, now you can not give a crap that's fine and there are tons of Trumpers out there that dont care he did it, hell they applaud it, but every one of those people are also applauding taking a big fat dump on the Constitution.
 
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