Downeastnc
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He didn't write it......that why.....give it a few days he will bust out with something nasty....
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He didn't write it......that why.....give it a few days he will bust out with something nasty....
Sandbar
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Ok.....so why are the inner cities in such poor shape? Why can't these problems be solved? Millions of democrat voters live within these confines yet all I see is gloom despair and agony combined with decades of broken promises. These people aren't voting for Republicans so my only observation is that either these people are completely happy living in filth and poverty or they are just ignorant to the fact that they are being used by the people living above them in the penthouse
Downeastnc
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If you take 10 degreed people at random and compare them to 10 HS or lower educated people picked at random the 10 college grads will be doing much better, there are always exception to the rules.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/mone...lege-grads-and-everyone-else-record/96493348/
College graduates, on average, earned 56% more than high school grads in 2015, according to data compiled by the Economic Policy Institute. That was up from 51% in 1999 and is the largest such gap in EPI's figures dating to 1973.
Since the Great Recession ended in 2009, college-educated workers have captured most of the new jobs and enjoyed pay gains. Non-college grads, by contrast, have faced dwindling job opportunities and an overall 3% decline in income, EPI's data shows.
You're the best promoter of Dems in here and yet you say your Republican, it's confusing frankly.
Intended or not, your first line is basically denigrating those who are HS graduates only. Some of your facts are true but they are also a tool, to almost "force" individuals to have to go to colleges where the vast majority these days are indoctrinating our youth with socialist ideas. More college graduates today then ever support socialist ideologies and yet most have no idea how detrimental those policies will be.
Dems keep individuals down so they need them to survive, they've infiltrated colleges like the 30's axis of evil and then create an environment where you will only be successful if you have that degree or at least a narrative to make you believe it, they completely over look the average hard working, taxpaying, law abiding citizen by which the very foundation of this country was established and they do it all for one purpose: to remain in power.
Downeastnc
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I could use the same argument about many, many places in rural southern American run by Republicans....the poorest states in the country are ran by Republican legislatures and governors, and have been for awhile......why is that if voting Republican is suppose to fix all that stuff......its easy to do this kind of stuff, you want to blame the Dems for inner city plight but do you think if they voted in a bunch of Republicans it would get better? If so why considering the below link showing that 18 or the 19 poorest states in the country are run by the GOP.......surely that cant be right if all you have to do to be prosperous is vote in the GOP......its more complicated than this and that's why arguing either side of this argument is dumb.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/mone...ates-have-republican-legislatures/1694273002/
Eighteen of the 19 poorest states have legislatures where both chambers are Republican controlled.
All I see are figures based on household income with no mention of cost of living or tax rates. I mean to be fair a person can live in my area off of 40k fairly comfortably but would be borderline poverty in NYC. Also I'd be curious as to how many federal regulations hinder employment in some of those states? W Va for instance, although coal industry is now able to attempt a comeback we know the Obama administration made a point to "put it out of business" so of course in that state unemployment and economic hardships were to follow.
With all that said, imho, quality of life & being successful is far more than $$. What about crime rates, gun laws (gun free zones), sanctuary cities, insane regulations (NYC you better be careful what you say and what you eat) I'll take my average salary, enjoy my country life, my family, my freedoms, my religion.... in other words I'll keep clinging to my God, guns and country and be happy till the day He returns.
Sandbar
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^ Bingo!
Downeastnc
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Didn't mean to strike a nerve just dealing with facts......being educated with a college degree equals more money on average.....that is just the way it is. I do not have a college degree, I went some but did not finish, I have a good job but it is shift work in a factory and I have to bust my ass to make 60-65K a year.....and when I started I was making 30-35K a year. The company just hired in a guy to be the process tech for my line, he is 25 with a degree and is probably starting at around 60-70k......
I am in no way implying that people without college degrees can not be successful or even widely successful I know plenty that are.....I also know some college educated people that have not done as well as I have.....again my entire point is on average college educated people do better than those who don't have degree's.
It's all good.... tbh the world would be a better place if we all had to bust our behinds to make it. I think people were better in general without all the technology and had to actually work for a living.
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Heelyes
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West Virginia was poor way before Obama was born. Coal is dying no matter what anybody does. It's a out of date and dirty way to boil water to make steam
Sandbar
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One breath you are trying to convince us that people with college degrees do better and the next you are talking about poor states versus rich states, red, blue, this , that that....kinda hard to follow
ForsythSnow
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To be fair, do you have an idea on how the economies of the least educated states are? I'd imagine ones like Mississippi aren't that good because businesses have no reason to go there. In addition, who would want to move a large industry to a place with low education and is prone to flooding and hurricanes? One reason Florida makes it away from this is because it's full of people and tourists and industries that flood the economy with money. I have to wonder if stagnant economic conditions and lack of attraction for businesses prevent better educations also in part due to colleges also not being accessible and no motivation to learn because industries aren't around to pay well. Also scholarships and eligibility for loans, are they as prevelant there in poorly educated states than in more wealthy states? I'm pretty sure all of this came out on a weird way, so don't pick it apart too harshly.
Downeastnc
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I don't promote the Dem's just facts, a lot of people on both sides suffer from "mysideitis".....arguments like inner city blight is the fault of the Dems but ignoring red state poverty like AL/MS/KY/WV. I see fault with both parties, and I call it like I see it. I complained about Obama and Hillary plenty not on this board since I was not a member but there are those here that have seen my post on other forums ( paging Cold Rain )......however Trump has soured me greatly on the current GOP leadership......not to the point I am going to vote for a Dem though, that wont happen unless the Dems see a significant correction to the middle with their platform with the GOP continuing to move far right....
Downeastnc
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I agree with this post 100%, it bring homes the point I was trying to make better than I did, there is a lot more that goes into things than which political party is in charge.....
Sandbar
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I get where you are coming from but I just don't see a comparison between inner city blight that is obvious in plain sight as a problem and what your "facts" deme as poverty in red states. Sorry I just don't see it as a similar comparison no matter who is or isn't at fault. A person living in a poorer rural area "on average" doesn't face the same economic and social obstacles as someone struggling in an inner city. Just my opinion of course. If both classes of people are happy with they way they vote and the outcomes of those votes I suppose we can all raise a glass and celebrate......
The income may be greater but with all the news articles quoting college grads who can barely pay their loans while begging for loan forgiveness, I’m guessing the income difference is skewed by upper end earners.
I agree this attitude by some is silly nonsense and not at all productive.
I'd disagree that I've gone batpoop insane.
It is just plain false to claim that "the vast majority these days are indoctrinating our youth with socialist ideas." Do you know what indoctrination is?
Sure do
And it's not false, as the studies below show the vast majority of college professors are liberal. We've seen example after example, conservative speakers banned, professors teaching their opinion in the classroom and engaging in political activism on campus, safe spaces, trigger warnings, most conservative students can't or won't speak their mind out of fear....that's not tolerance that's for sure. And a professor teaching their opinion when the vast majority hold liberal views looks an awful lot like "teaching a person or group to accept a set of beliefs" which is the definition of indoctrinate.
https://www.nas.org/academic-questi...iations_of_elite_liberal_arts_college_faculty
https://econjwatch.org/articles/fac...-journalism-communications-law-and-psychology
Sandbar
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And its not just colleges doing the dirty work of the left. They own social media as well and it has been shown repeatedly that they have a well known bias to left leaning political candidates and issues. That's a lot of power to sway weak minded and young individuals
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