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Hate is an emotion that eats away your soul and does nothing to the one you hate. I disliked Obama, not as a man or Father, but as someone who felt this country needed to be reformed in his image. Never did hate him and actually voted for him the first time but some of you here need to get a handle on your absolute hatred of Trump (who I also dislike but as a person), perhaps some prayer or therapy, if you prefer, is in order. When you hate that strongly, you become irrational and tunnel visioned to an unhealthy extent
 
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We’ll abolishing police is a pretty stupid idea!


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Jessy89 said:
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We’ll abolishing police is a pretty stupid idea!


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This is the stupid ---- I was talking about earlier. Democrats are no more stupid than all the redneck, trailer park Republican voting for tax cuts for rich people in the hope that someday they will be rich and benefit from it. The same voters that get food stamps and talk about welfare reform
 
Heelyes said:
This is the stupid poop I was talking about earlier. Democrats are no more stupid than all the redneck, trailer park Republican voting for tax cuts for rich people in the hope that someday they will be rich and benefit from it. The same voters that get food stamps and talk about welfare reform
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Not how trickle down economics work
 
Heelyes said:
This is the stupid poop I was talking about earlier. Democrats are no more stupid than all the redneck, trailer park Republican voting for tax cuts for rich people in the hope that someday they will be rich and benefit from it. The same voters that get food stamps and talk about welfare reform
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All those things you mentioned are not as dangerous as abolishing police.


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Heelyes said:
This is the stupid poop I was talking about earlier. Democrats are no more stupid than all the redneck, trailer park Republican voting for tax cuts for rich people in the hope that someday they will be rich and benefit from it. The same voters that get food stamps and talk about welfare reform
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The YouTube channel that has the videos of "trump fans say the darndest things" is all you need to see to know stupid isnt exclusive to democrats.
 
Raising taxes doesn’t work either. Think about it. Business tax should really be under 10% that would really help with jobs. Help with wages bonuses etc. less tax burden means more jobs and money in the lower and middle classes pockets. Wouldn’t bother me if business tax was 0%


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Jessy89 said:
All those things you mentioned are not as dangerous as abolishing police.


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I don't think anyone will be abolishing police anywhere. I think you are confusing cutting excessive spending on law enforcement with getting rid of them. In my county we spend tens of thousands of dollars a year to fly helicopters to look for pot plants and make the teachers buy supplies for their class. We get new cop cars and military equipment for the local law but still use 40 year old buses to take kids to older schools. We got a new jail and courthouse but no new schools, see the problem?
 
Heelyes said:
I don't think anyone will be abolishing police anywhere. I think you are confusing cutting excessive spending on law enforcement with getting rid of them. In my county we spend tens of thousands of dollars a year to fly helicopters to look for pot plants and make the teachers buy supplies for their class. We get new cop cars and military equipment for the local law but still use 40 year old buses to take kids to older schools. We got a new jail and courthouse but no new schools, see the problem?
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Then why do you have some cities voting to abolish police?


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Heelyes said:
I don't think anyone will be abolishing police anywhere. I think you are confusing cutting excessive spending on law enforcement with getting rid of them. In my county we spend tens of thousands of dollars a year to fly helicopters to look for pot plants and make the teachers buy supplies for their class. We get new cop cars and military equipment for the local law but still use 40 year old buses to take kids to older schools. We got a new jail and courthouse but no new schools, see the problem?
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Heelyes said:
I don't think anyone will be abolishing police anywhere. I think you are confusing cutting excessive spending on law enforcement with getting rid of them. In my county we spend tens of thousands of dollars a year to fly helicopters to look for pot plants and make the teachers buy supplies for their class. We get new cop cars and military equipment for the local law but still use 40 year old buses to take kids to older schools. We got a new jail and courthouse but no new schools, see the problem?
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Dude, it's already happening. Where have you been hiding? Wake up and see what our America is becoming.... They are cutting police officer's jobs everywhere.
 
Heelyes said:
This is the stupid poop I was talking about earlier. Democrats are no more stupid than all the redneck, trailer park Republican voting for tax cuts for rich people in the hope that someday they will be rich and benefit from it. The same voters that get food stamps and talk about welfare reform
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This is the out of touch stuff that Trump won on. I received a tax cut beginning last year and I am not rich by any means.
 
Jessy89 said:
Raising taxes doesn’t work either. Think about it. Business tax should really be under 10% that would really help with jobs. Help with wages bonuses etc. less tax burden means more jobs and money in the lower and middle classes pockets. Wouldn’t bother me if business tax was 0%


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Accept these businesses would still pay minimum wage and only send the extra cash into the upper echelons of the company. Its not a solution that works for lower or middle class workers.

a better option would be a tax reduction that stipulates X amount of tax break money has to go to employees wages and benefits.

For example Walmart instead of paying 6 billion in taxes only has to pay 3 billion. Of the 3 billion they are allowed to keep 60% must be returned to employees through better healthcare coverage, bonuses, or higher wages.
 
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Accept these businesses would still pay minimum wage and only send the extra cash into the upper echelons of the company. Its not a solution that works for lower or middle class workers.

a better option would be a tax reduction that stipulates X amount of tax break money has to go to employees wages and benefits.

For example Walmart instead of paying 6 billion in taxes only has to pay 3 billion. Of the 3 billion they are allowed to keep 60% must be returned to employees through better healthcare coverage, bonuses, or higher wages.
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I can’t argue with that. Basically your saying the more businesses are willing to give to there employees the less tax burden they have. Seems fair to me


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Jessy89 said:
Raising taxes doesn’t work either. Think about it. Business tax should really be under 10% that would really help with jobs. Help with wages bonuses etc. less tax burden means more jobs and money in the lower and middle classes pockets. Wouldn’t bother me if business tax was 0%


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Would not work. Businesses would just keep it all as profit. Just look at what CEO's get right now.
 
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So you feel the burn?
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No I don’t think there should be a mandatory $15 minimum wage. But I believe in giving businesses as much of a break as possible if they can give it back to there employees. Hiring higher wage better benefits etc.


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Heelyes said:
This forum would probably have a significant amount more members if it wasn't so one sided. The bitching and moaning about Democrats ruining the world and being the cause of all problems is sad. I know there is plenty of Trump hate here and around the country but hating one man isn't the same as hating half the country.
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Its not moaning, its facts. Be who you are, as you may. I love the country. If I hated half of it, Id join you Dems and your marxist/socialist movement lol. Sorry friend/friends, but its time to call this movemnet out for what it is.
The Democratic Party in their core hate America and what it stands for and represents. No we havent been perfect. But because many of us beleive we are one nation under God. We always rise to the occasion and make this country the eye candy of the world.
 
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All Democrats don’t agree with abolishing the police. Including the dem nominee and myself. That’s a gigantic strawman when you say ALL Democrats think that way or are guilty of the opinion if they support biden.
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Going to be an interesting push to get voters out then. The Bernie/AOC portion of the Dems wants complete abolishment and probably won’t turn out for Biden if he doesn’t bow down to them.
 
Biden will sign anything that makes it to his desk by Democrats. Meaning it will be dangerously scary if Democrats control all chambers of Government!


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Pretty good take on the situation.

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I hope the safety was on, I mean even if it was this women is putting a lot of lives in danger and putting herself in a position where her actions could be such that she put people in fear for their lives, if I was on the road and not on her property and she pointed her gun at me she would not like what happened next.....for the few seconds she had left to live.

They were completely in their right to protect their property but pointing gun at people off their property is a sure fire way to get killed.
 
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Here’s a nice tweet from two other black people I think very highly of. Diamond and silk really intelligent and bright individuals. I like these two.


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Downeastnc said:
I hope the safety was on, I mean even if it was this women is putting a lot of lives in danger and putting herself in a position where her actions could be such that she put people in fear for their lives, if I was on the road and not on her property and she pointed her gun at me she would not like what happened next.....for the few seconds she had left to live.

They were completely in their right to protect their property but pointing gun at people off their property is a sure fire way to get killed.
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Yeah their defense of "we were afraid for our lives" went right out the window when she approached and confronted those people. If I'm truly afraid I'm inside thinking of best defense of my home should they try to enter. Playing pinch points and bottlenecks that give me the best chance at a successful defense of my home.
 
Jessy89 said:
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Here’s a nice tweet from two other black people I think very highly of. Diamond and silk really intelligent and bright individuals. I like these two.


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It is self-destructive for any society to create a situation where a baby who is born into the world today automatically has pre-existing grievances against another baby born at the same time, because of what their ancestors did centuries ago.
It is hard enough to solve our own problems, without trying to solve our ancestors’ problems.
 
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