pcbjr
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Sir or Madame,
Mine was not a "socialist" post; just a rational observation ...
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Mine was not a "socialist" post; just a rational observation ...
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Webberweather53
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What litmus test? Did Iran, Italy, & China not give you enough of a litmus test already on how not to respond to covid-19?
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Yes, for a virus that has a legitimate high mortality rate. This one does not. This is no Spanish Flu. And I'm not talking about the case mortality rate, because that number is very inaccurate. I am making the argument that the shut-down is not worth the trade-off. Look at the trade:
Economy which sustains the lives of hundreds of millions of people in the U.S. for a hundred thousand lives, many of whom would have died anyway within the next year. How many die every year from all sources? Millions in the U.S. alone.
A robust cconomy that pays for the health care of those affected by the virus for government bail outs, over and over again, with tons of debt that, ironically, will require a robust economy to pay back.
Significant chance of civil unrest, global financial shocks and collapse, global wars for a chance that hospitals can treat all of the diseased without being over-run (the virus will still not be contained and you will still have many thousands of deaths, just not all at the same time).
There is more, but the "trade" already is just patently stupid at this point, so I'm not taking it any further.
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OMG, really? You trust Iran's numbers? They lied about shooting down an civilian airliner just months ago to save face! China? You believe "effing" China?????? Italy has a huge vulnerable population that basically didn't want to give up their culture out of fear of getting sick.
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Hey, why are you calling "me" pathetic? Don't you mean my ideas are "pathetic"? You don't even know who I am, so how are making that judgement call? Anyway, what you're looking at there in your fancy chart are the recorded cases, not actual infections. Your starting point is "0" because before that date, there was no Covid-19 testing, not because there were no "cases" or rather infections. Your chart just shows the trajectory of "testing" and has no relevance to the distribution of the disease and therefore can not be used as a way to prove if mitigation efforts have been effective.
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Social distancing I’m sure has worked but so has the warmer temps and sunshine. Hopefully this virus burns itself out but with previous countries like China and SK now having cases again that does not bode well. So probably come September we will be having cases surge again. I can hear it now. Shut down everything again.
Webberweather53
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Even if testing remained the same and if the virus continued spreading throughout the population, the proportion of the population infected by said virus should still continue increasing if we started with a small percentage to begin with, but it's clearly not happening so your logic unsurprisingly fails miserably here. Yes, you're pathetic.
Webberweather53
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Even modest social distancing measures are much more impactful on covid-19 spread than background climate conditions
Webberweather53
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Never once said or implied I trusted any of their numbers.
The reality is, not trusting their numbers only reinforces my point more that taking no action is infinitely worse than some flawed measures to reduce covid-19 spread which you assert are doing basically nothing.
Lol
Steven_1974
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Outside of opinion shows on any of those networks, I don't see them getting away from the facts and science.
Steven_1974
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There is no evidence to suggest warmer temps and sunshine is having an effect to this as places that are hot are having issues with it too.
Yup. We will never return to normal. At least not this year. And possibly not next. All these "Don't Tread on Me" people are going to continue to defy health professionals. They'd rather listen to the president, who last time I checked had no medical degree or insight. We only have ourselves to blame.
Steven_1974
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Even a blind squirrel finds a nut now and again. This is a perfect example of why we have the rules in place, cause people like he mentioned can't be bothered to follow them:
Cad Wedge NC
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He has one of the highest medical professionals in our nation advising him. Try again Trump hater....
HA HA HA HA. Yeah, that may well be, but his supporters don't listen to them. So, your point is completely void. Edit: Trump defy's them as well. He already has a task force set to re-open the country. AND none of them have any medical training or knowledge.
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Steven_1974
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Except he has had a really hard time listening to them very often as has been shown over and over when he ignored their recommendations much to the country's detriment.
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Never return to normal? Not even next year??? 95% of the things that we fear in life never come true. I'm sorry you feel that way.
We will never go back to the normalcy that we once knew. Even if we start opening up this year.
Yes we will. And it will be better appreciated than before. I promise.
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