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Agree! My oldest sister is a single mom. She put herself through college, raised 2 kids, is putting one through college now with another to follow and will have her beautiful home paid for in 15 years! Instead of people making excuses they should go buy a Dave Ramsey course like my sister did. Its called "sacrifice".....
God bless your sister! She needs to tell whacked out AOC that pulling oneself up by their own boot straps isn't false but very real and many hardworking Americans have done just that. Have you seen AOC's ridiculous comments? Scary thing is people elect these nut jobs.
 

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God bless your sister! She needs to tell whacked out AOC that pulling oneself up by their own boot straps isn't false but very real and many hardworking Americans have done just that. Have you seen AOC's ridiculous comments? Scary thing is people elect these nut jobs.
My sister was the first one to send me that gem from AOC because that's EXACTLY what my sister did. She has never spent 1 minute feeling sorry for herself. Of course we were raised in a military/farming family so not much room for excuse making. You get your ass out of bed in the morning and make it up before you hit the ground running......
 

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I wouldn't count on it...China might be a different story, unless they want to blame Trump for that, too
Yeah the economy has been going south for 2 years now according to some. I have seen every kind of chart and index known to man that indicate the economy is going to tank leading to Trump's ouster in November. Don't see it happening
 

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I have a kid 2 years out of college we are still paying off, one in college (scholly praise the lord) and wifey will have masters completed this spring. Its a big gamble, risk. You have to weigh out the value gained getting a 4 yr degree long term verse taking another route for your chosen career.
Ill say this, A big part of the unaffordable cost for a 4 year degree is associated with the business model still being employed by universities today. They waste 2 years of a kids time in general ed, filling up occupancy for the room and board . Its a business to them and they are out pricing the value of their service.

I have what will be 3 teachers in the house. 2 already, one on the way. One kid come out of school making 30,000 just recently per year. The cost of that degree would have been roughly 60,000 bucks if she hadn't of gone to early college in high school and alleviated 60 credit hours. I have to say its not smart money for a kid who wants to teach in public school to go in the hawk 60,000 with interest only to come out and be capped at making 30,000 with hit- n -miss cost of living raise every other election cycle. So you do the math long term on some of these majors, that end up being so generic and you see the current collision course we are all expierencing. Universities can not afford to not raise prices and fund their current budgets. However in my opinion they are pricing themselves out of customers. Unless your degree is specifically required for your professional field, its not worth the investment. We've hired 5 shipping clerks over the past 7 years and alll of them have degrees in fields of study they couldnt get a job in. Now weve trained them and promoted 3 up the ladder at our company.
Its a whole nother debate,one that needs to be had. Universities would be better served rolling kids in an out in 2 an half years as oppossed to 4. Taking all this extended literature, geology, art,music etc. Just sucking money out of their customer base isnt sustainable for the buyer and the seller.
 

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I have a kid 2 years out of college we are still paying off, one in college (scholly praise the lord) and wifey will have masters completed this spring. Its a big gamble, risk. You have to weigh out the value gained getting a 4 yr degree long term verse taking another route for your chosen career.
Ill say this, A big part of the unaffordable cost for a 4 year degree is associated with the business model still being employed by universities today. They waste 2 years of a kids time in general ed, filling up occupancy for the room and board . Its a business to them and they are out pricing the value of their service.

I have what will be 3 teachers in the house. 2 already, one on the way. One kid come out of school making 30,000 just recently per year. The cost of that degree would have been roughly 60,000 bucks if she hadn't of gone to early college in high school and alleviated 60 credit hours. I have to say its not smart money for a kid who wants to teach in public school to go in the hawk 60,000 with interest only to come out and be capped at making 30,000 with hit- n -miss cost of living raise every other election cycle. So you do the math long term on some of these majors, that end up being so generic and you see the current collision course we are all expierencing. Universities can not afford to not raise prices and fund their current budgets. However in my opinion they are pricing themselves out of customers. Unless your degree is specifically required for your professional field, its not worth the investment. We've hired 5 shipping clerks over the past 7 years and alll of them have degrees in fields of study they couldnt get a job in. Now weve trained them and promoted 3 up the ladder at our company.
Its a whole nother debate,one that needs to be had. Universities would be better served rolling kids in an out in 2 an half years as oppossed to 4. Taking all this extended literature, geology, art,music etc. Just sucking money out of their customer base isnt sustainable for the buyer and the seller.
Agree!! Got one in college now (Sophomore) and one starting next year...Cost has gotten out of sight!! You do what you can
 

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I have a kid 2 years out of college we are still paying off, one in college (scholly praise the lord) and wifey will have masters completed this spring. Its a big gamble, risk. You have to weigh out the value gained getting a 4 yr degree long term verse taking another route for your chosen career.
Ill say this, A big part of the unaffordable cost for a 4 year degree is associated with the business model still being employed by universities today. They waste 2 years of a kids time in general ed, filling up occupancy for the room and board . Its a business to them and they are out pricing the value of their service.

I have what will be 3 teachers in the house. 2 already, one on the way. One kid come out of school making 30,000 just recently per year. The cost of that degree would have been roughly 60,000 bucks if she hadn't of gone to early college in high school and alleviated 60 credit hours. I have to say its not smart money for a kid who wants to teach in public school to go in the hawk 60,000 with interest only to come out and be capped at making 30,000 with hit- n -miss cost of living raise every other election cycle. So you do the math long term on some of these majors, that end up being so generic and you see the current collision course we are all expierencing. Universities can not afford to not raise prices and fund their current budgets. However in my opinion they are pricing themselves out of customers. Unless your degree is specifically required for your professional field, its not worth the investment. We've hired 5 shipping clerks over the past 7 years and alll of them have degrees in fields of study they couldnt get a job in. Now weve trained them and promoted 3 up the ladder at our company.
Its a whole nother debate,one that needs to be had. Universities would be better served rolling kids in an out in 2 an half years as oppossed to 4. Taking all this extended literature, geology, art,music etc. Just sucking money out of their customer base isnt sustainable for the buyer and the seller.
Agree.....Trade / 2 year tech schools seem to be making a comeback. They should be a priority. I just cant feel sorry for somebody with 6 figure debt majoring in something worthless to society
 

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I have a kid 2 years out of college we are still paying off, one in college (scholly praise the lord) and wifey will have masters completed this spring. Its a big gamble, risk. You have to weigh out the value gained getting a 4 yr degree long term verse taking another route for your chosen career.
Ill say this, A big part of the unaffordable cost for a 4 year degree is associated with the business model still being employed by universities today. They waste 2 years of a kids time in general ed, filling up occupancy for the room and board . Its a business to them and they are out pricing the value of their service.

I have what will be 3 teachers in the house. 2 already, one on the way. One kid come out of school making 30,000 just recently per year. The cost of that degree would have been roughly 60,000 bucks if she hadn't of gone to early college in high school and alleviated 60 credit hours. I have to say its not smart money for a kid who wants to teach in public school to go in the hawk 60,000 with interest only to come out and be capped at making 30,000 with hit- n -miss cost of living raise every other election cycle. So you do the math long term on some of these majors, that end up being so generic and you see the current collision course we are all expierencing. Universities can not afford to not raise prices and fund their current budgets. However in my opinion they are pricing themselves out of customers. Unless your degree is specifically required for your professional field, its not worth the investment. We've hired 5 shipping clerks over the past 7 years and alll of them have degrees in fields of study they couldnt get a job in. Now weve trained them and promoted 3 up the ladder at our company.
Its a whole nother debate,one that needs to be had. Universities would be better served rolling kids in an out in 2 an half years as oppossed to 4. Taking all this extended literature, geology, art,music etc. Just sucking money out of their customer base isnt sustainable for the buyer and the seller.
As a college student myself, there's certain ways to cut corners and costs, but not everyone can do that. Having a part time job and living at home versus spending thousands a year on just housing saves money. Sure I have to commute, but gas is cheaper than a dorm. Having a scholarship to cover the tuition is helpful as well, but as mentioned, not everyone can get one. Some fees at the university are really stupid to me. I get charged hundreds for something I don't even use. I get they have to pay for things, but it starts getting ridiculous at some points. I worry for those around me who are getting student loans to cover these if they'll be able to pay for them or not just because the market will go downhill around when we graduate or will be in the gutter already.
 

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As a college student myself, there's certain ways to cut corners and costs, but not everyone can do that. Having a part time job and living at home versus spending thousands a year on just housing saves money. Sure I have to commute, but gas is cheaper than a dorm. Having a scholarship to cover the tuition is helpful as well, but as mentioned, not everyone can get one. Some fees at the university are really stupid to me. I get charged hundreds for something I don't even use. I get they have to pay for things, but it starts getting ridiculous at some points. I worry for those around me who are getting student loans to cover these if they'll be able to pay for them or not just because the market will go downhill around when we graduate or will be in the gutter already.
This is just preparing you for the world after college Lol... many of us pay hundreds, thousands in taxes for things we never benefit from.
 

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I swear, the more I read the more I realize how many dumb people are in the world. For instance, the coronavirus numbers jumped 14k with 200+ deaths added, yet. It's amazing how many morons are not reading the articles that explain why such as this one.


Whether or not China has been open with the true numbers, for weeks they have given a confirmed count and a suspected count. They pretty much just combined numbers, and morons don't read.

Personally it wouldn't surprise me if most of the deaths didnt happen in the start of the outbreak when China dropped the ball and they are slowly leaking it out with about the same numbers daily to make it appear it is just constistantly happening.
 

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I swear, the more I read the more I realize how many dumb people are in the world. For instance, the coronavirus numbers jumped 14k with 200+ deaths added, yet. It's amazing how many morons are not reading the articles that explain why such as this one.


Whether or not China has been open with the true numbers, for weeks they have given a confirmed count and a suspected count. They pretty much just combined numbers, and morons don't read.

Personally it wouldn't surprise me if most of the deaths didnt happen in the start of the outbreak when China dropped the ball and they are slowly leaking it out with about the same numbers daily to make it appear it is just constistantly happening.
I think the deaths are accelerating because the virus has. I mean in the beginning when you had a few hundred cases they may have had enough ICU beds but as the thousands of new cases came in beds, ventilators and other life saving capacities dwindled so more people are dying.
 

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I think the deaths are accelerating because the virus has. I mean in the beginning when you had a few hundred cases they may have had enough ICU beds but as the thousands of new cases came in beds, ventilators and other life saving capacities dwindled so more people are dying.
I have to agree with you. Ive been leaning this was just severe flu like outbreak new strain. Itll be a run of mill deal and we will move on.
But starting to learn its much more contagious, way longer shelf life on handles door knobs, etc, like 21 days. Singapore is startting to have multiplying clusters now and is the place to watch. They are up to 55ish cases. The most alarming is 30 to 40 percent of those are evolving into critical condition,hospitalization . Dont beleive theyve had any deaths yet, could be wrong.
Another thing I just shrugged off as a conspiracy theory was the origin of this virus. That lab being right at center of this big outbreak. Turns out I read very detailed article of 2 current employes who where at UNC somewhere doing this same testing ,crossing over these coronovirus with bats etc. That funding shut down a year or 2 ago and both are now employed, doing research at this lab in epi center of outbreak. It was a very detailed article. Cant figure out why on earth we need to risk doing this kind of research, purpose. This lab has a terrible track record of accidents in its past, well documented.
Anyway you just dont shut down these massive metro areas, your economy for over a month + without knowing something more than is being let on. Theres way more to this than we know and Chinas staunch refussal to let cdc , who till like a day or so ago , come in help assess, is a major red flag.
 

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Well atleast China isnt fighting the coronovirus like North Korea.
They just took the poor soul outside and shot him for not following quarentine protocol.
 

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I think the deaths are accelerating because the virus has. I mean in the beginning when you had a few hundred cases they may have had enough ICU beds but as the thousands of new cases came in beds, ventilators and other life saving capacities dwindled so more people are dying.
So far deaths really haven’t accelerated. Pretty much ticked up in unison with the infection rate. I think the big bump yesterday had somewhere around 100 deaths that day and the rest are retroactively added using the new criteria.
 

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So far deaths really haven’t accelerated. Pretty much ticked up in unison with the infection rate. I think the big bump yesterday had somewhere around 100 deaths that day and the rest are retroactively added using the new criteria.
Ok I hadn't heard that but it makes sense.
 

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Pay attention to this. Says exactly what I've been thinking regarding the upcoming election should a certain someone get the democratic nomination.
 

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I hope Bernie does win the nomination because Doc Brown will drive the Democrat party into the ground attempting to stop him. Trump will win in a historic landslide not to mention taking both chambers of congress. America is not going to vote in a socialist no matter how he rebrands it
 

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If young folks want free healthcare and education so bad, I can help you out with that......Go down to your local recruiters office and tell them you are ready to serve in an adventure of a lifetime!
Or go find a job too. Many employers offer opportunities to get discounted or free healthcare and offer career advancement that will help pay the cost for a certain field of study that aligns with that business. If you get a high paying job too then you can afford healthcare and pay off the student loan debt too. It amazes me how many people simply haven't been taught fiscal responsibility. The problem isn't just with young folks though, our political leaders aren't fiscally responsible and need to do something about the $20+ Trillion in debt we have.
 

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If young folks want free healthcare and education so bad, I can help you out with that......Go down to your local recruiters office and tell them you are ready to serve in an adventure of a lifetime!
Travel to faraway and exotic lands, meet a variety of individuals, then learn how to shoot them. LOL. Hey, we did it. If it was good enough for us, it’s good enough for them.
 

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Travel to faraway and exotic lands, meet a variety of individuals, then learn how to shoot them. LOL. Hey, we did it. If it was good enough for us, it’s good enough for them.
It would certainly change their perspective on freedom and just how fortunate we are to live in this great country.
 
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