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WEATHERBOYROY said:
There is no reason to rush Nancy. Trump isn't impeached until she releases it to the Senate. I know the strategy for the Dems is to stretch it out as long as possible. The Senate majority leader has as much to say about process as the speaker of the House. He never has to cave to Nancy. He may do the same thing that the house did. He may only allow the witnesses he wants to testify just as Schiff and Nadler did in the House. Both insuring the results they want....all this has just been politics, there has never been ANY threat of Trump being removed from office.
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Yes.....Any witnesses will be on Mitch's terms. Like he said, they already had their turn to grandstand in the House. She can wait as long as she wants. Economy is soaring as is approval numbers with his base
 
WEATHERBOYROY said:
There is no reason to rush Nancy. Trump isn't impeached until she releases it to the Senate. I know the strategy for the Dems is to stretch it out as long as possible. The Senate majority leader has as much to say about process as the speaker of the House. He never has to cave to Nancy. He may do the same thing that the house did. He may only allow the witnesses he wants to testify just as Schiff and Nadler did in the House. Both insuring the results they want....all this has just been politics, there has never been ANY threat of Trump being removed from office.
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This is incorrect Trump is and always shall be impeached....Senate cant do anything without a vote and McConnell needs 51 to pass anything....this is why he has not done anything yet, he does not have the votes....those 3-4 GOP senators in the middle are controlling the process right now. I agree Trump probably wont get removed, the chances he does however goes up if they get someone like Bolton to say Trump is guilty of everything he is accused of and public opinion sways 60% for impeach.
 
Downeastnc said:
This is incorrect Trump is and always shall be impeached....Senate cant do anything without a vote and McConnell needs 51 to pass anything....this is why he has not done anything yet, he does not have the votes....those 3-4 GOP senators in the middle are controlling the process right now. I agree Trump probably wont get removed, the chances he does however goes up if they get someone like Bolton to say Trump is guilty of everything he is accused of and public opinion sways 60% for impeach.
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Noah Feldman, a key Democrat witness and a Harvard law school professor, wrote an opinion piece about why Trump is technically not impeached. Here’s an excerpt below.

“If the House does not communicate its impeachment to the Senate, it hasn’t actually impeached the president. If the articles are not transmitted, Trump could legitimately say that he wasn’t truly impeached at all.

That’s because “impeachment” under the Constitution means the House sending its approved articles of to the Senate, with House managers standing up in the Senate and saying the president is impeached.

As for the headlines we saw after the House vote saying, “TRUMP IMPEACHED,” those are a media shorthand, not a technically correct legal statement. So far, the House has voted to impeach (future tense) Trump. He isn’t impeached (past tense) until the articles go to the Senate and the House members deliver the message.

If the House votes to “impeach” but doesn’t send the articles to the Senate or send impeachment managers there to carry its message, it hasn’t directly violated the text of the Constitution. But the House would be acting against the implicit logic of the Constitution’s description of impeachment. A president who has been genuinely impeached must constitutionally have the opportunity to defend himself before the Senate.

If the House votes to “impeach” but doesn’t send the articles to the Senate or send impeachment managers there to carry its message, it hasn’t directly violated the text of the Constitution. But the House would be acting against the implicit logic of the Constitution’s description of impeachment. A president who has been genuinely impeached must constitutionally have the opportunity to defend himself before the Senate.”
 
Heelyes said:
30,000 homeless veterans in this great economy is hard to grasp. I know it's Obama's fault but how do we fix it?
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lol! you're not serious? I wasn't that far from being homeless myself under obama's destructive socialist agenda. I know homelessness is at a much lower rate now than it was at any time under obama, when we had the lowest employment rate since the 1970's, ( at which time, most moms didn't work, because you could survive with 1 income.) Many of the homeless Vets are homeless , not because of the economy, but because of mental conditions they developed fighting for our freedom and safety!
 
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WEATHERBOYROY said:
lol! you're not serious? I wasn't that far from being homeless myself under obama's destructive socialist agenda. I know homelessness is at a much lower rate now than it was at any time under obama, when we had the lowest employment rate since the 1970's, ( at which time, most moms didn't work, because you could survive with 1 income.) Many of the homeless Vets are homeless , not because of the economy, but because of mental conditions they developed fighting for our freedom and safety!
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Correct. The struggle for many vets is the mental barrier not job opportunities. I had to have a mental evaluation to get government contract work when I retired from active duty. There is an unfortunate stigma that often comes with vets returning from war
 
snowlover91 said:
Noah Feldman, a key Democrat witness and a Harvard law school professor, wrote an opinion piece about why Trump is technically not impeached. Here’s an excerpt below.

“If the House does not communicate its impeachment to the Senate, it hasn’t actually impeached the president. If the articles are not transmitted, Trump could legitimately say that he wasn’t truly impeached at all.

That’s because “impeachment” under the Constitution means the House sending its approved articles of to the Senate, with House managers standing up in the Senate and saying the president is impeached.

As for the headlines we saw after the House vote saying, “TRUMP IMPEACHED,” those are a media shorthand, not a technically correct legal statement. So far, the House has voted to impeach (future tense) Trump. He isn’t impeached (past tense) until the articles go to the Senate and the House members deliver the message.

If the House votes to “impeach” but doesn’t send the articles to the Senate or send impeachment managers there to carry its message, it hasn’t directly violated the text of the Constitution. But the House would be acting against the implicit logic of the Constitution’s description of impeachment. A president who has been genuinely impeached must constitutionally have the opportunity to defend himself before the Senate.

If the House votes to “impeach” but doesn’t send the articles to the Senate or send impeachment managers there to carry its message, it hasn’t directly violated the text of the Constitution. But the House would be acting against the implicit logic of the Constitution’s description of impeachment. A president who has been genuinely impeached must constitutionally have the opportunity to defend himself before the Senate.”
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Perception is key, and well the House voted on and passed articles of impeachment, they have sole power over that part of the process and they impeached Trump....I guess we can argue about this but at the end of the day Trump is and forever shall be one of 3 US presidents that had articles of impeachment passed against them and nothing will change that. The House will send the articles over eventually probably by the end of this month.
 
Heelyes said:
Bush sent them to war and ruined the economy, not Obama. Trump is in charge now so if he doesn't help them it's on him.
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We volunteered to protect the country from foreign threats and the large majority of us had zero problems with why we were there. Trump is indeed in charge now and veterans are doing great as a whole. Anybody that tells you different is an anomaly
 
Sandbar said:
We volunteered to protect the country from foreign threats and the large majority of us had zero problems with why we were there. Trump is indeed in charge now and veterans are doing great as a whole. Anybody that tells you different is an anomaly
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Over 30,000 anomalies? They deserve better
 
Heelyes said:
Bush sent them to war and ruined the economy, not Obama. Trump is in charge now so if he doesn't help them it's on him.
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:p YOU WERE BEING FACETIOUS:p I take back my apology! It's not the president or any branch of the government that can make the most difference, it's you and I . If you see the need, get to work with your own hands and ask God to give you the means to make a change. I can do more to help my fellow man than I am , how about you?
 
WEATHERBOYROY said:
:p YOU WERE BEING FACETIOUS:p I take back my apology! It's not the president or any branch of the government that can make the most difference, it's you and I . If you see the need, get to work with your own hands and ask God to give you the means to make a change. I can do more to help my fellow man than I am , how about you?
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I feed the homeless all the time and I do more than the billionaire draft dodging president to honor vets. His answer is to make more veterans to turn our back on.
 
Heelyes said:
Over 30,000 anomalies? They deserve better
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We always deserve better so Im not exactly sure what your point is. Bush sent us to war. We were fine with that. Obama kept us over there. We were fine with that (sans some really stupid changes), Trump has done an excellent job managing the war on terror. Im sure it pisses you off to hear that but that's just the way it is........
 
Sandbar said:
We always deserve better so Im not exactly sure what your point is. Bush sent us to war. We were fine with that. Obama kept us over there. We were fine with that (sans some really stupid changes), Trump has done an excellent job managing the war on terror. Im sure it pisses you off to hear that but that's just the way it is........
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It pisses me off that a majority of our homeless are veterans or mentally ill. I don't care what Trump does in the never ending war on terror. This war was always a fraud and always will be.
 
The huge red pill is going to be so hard to swallow for some on here. Wasting time repeating what MSM, professors, Hollywood and radicals spew and continually repeating democrat talking points is doing nothing but wasting time. It's not helping veterans, the homeless, people wating for cancer treatments to be released, the mentally ill or anybody! While the dems keep coming up with anything they can throw at the wall to see if they can turn people away from truths coming, Trump is 5 steps ahead of them. It's amazing to watch. Trump will never be removed from office and is not impeached except in Nancy's delusional mind. He and his team are three steps ahead of these crooked swamp people. Anything they accuse him of multiply by 10. Panic in DC, they have no choice but to try to remove him. It's too late though. The truth and exposure of the corrupt deep state is coming. They knew it all and know it all...The truth and exposure of all the pedophilia, crimes against humanity, Hollywood nasty secrets, DC players in bed with foreign countries, pay to play and the whole Obama, Brennan, Clapper and gangs' spying on Trump (also millions other Americans) is all coming to light. I'm still shocked that Ricky Gervais slammed it at Golden Globe awards. Find a clip and listen 10 times...If anybody think he was just joking, think again. We will all be appalled and sickened by the truths. So much to digest. God Bless America
 
Downeastnc said:
Perception is key, and well the House voted on and passed articles of impeachment, they have sole power over that part of the process and they impeached Trump....I guess we can argue about this but at the end of the day Trump is and forever shall be one of 3 US presidents that had articles of impeachment passed against them and nothing will change that. The House will send the articles over eventually probably by the end of this month.
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I’m just pointing out that from a technical and legal standpoint Trump isn’t actually considered impeached until Nancy gives it to the Senate. It doesn’t really matter either way but it’s interesting to note from a constitutional standpoint.

If you want a good laugh the 13 min audio clip in this article is awesome. Some Russian guys that run a YouTube channel prank called Maxine Waters, pretending to be Greta Thunberg and her father. They made up a fake island and conference and pretended to have dirt on Donald Trump. It’s hilarious and worth the listen.
https://legalinsurrection.com/2020/01/russians-prank-maxine-waters-with-greta-thunberg-confession/
 
Heelyes said:
It pisses me off that a majority of our homeless are veterans or mentally ill. I don't care what Trump does in the never ending war on terror. This war was always a fraud and always will be.
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I'm gonna let you on a little secret and don't really care if you disagree or not. Many of us that fought in it call it the 300 year war. Why? Because no matter how, when or why it started, it was going to happen at some point and it is going to be prolonged for a very long time in some form or fashion. We certainly made some mistakes learning how to fight it, especially in Iraq but lessons leaned aside, we have done a good job in the war on terror. We (The military) can fight it over there or YOU the civilian can fight it over here. Your choice......
 
I wasn't even attacking Trump, just making a obvious statement. If he has the power to do things like he did this week he has the power to help homeless vets. He just doesn't want to. It costs too much money
 
snowlover91 said:
I’m just pointing out that from a technical and legal standpoint Trump isn’t actually considered impeached until Nancy gives it to the Senate. It doesn’t really matter either way but it’s interesting to note from a constitutional standpoint.

If you want a good laugh the 13 min audio clip in this article is awesome. Some Russian guys that run a YouTube channel prank called Maxine Waters, pretending to be Greta Thunberg and her father. They made up a fake island and conference and pretended to have dirt on Donald Trump. It’s hilarious and worth the listen.
https://legalinsurrection.com/2020/01/russians-prank-maxine-waters-with-greta-thunberg-confession/
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Snow lover that was awesome!
 
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