GoDuke
Member
that explains a lot. Jon Steward is not a good source of factual information.
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With Trump “taking a break” from campaigning his staff really need to get a handle on the messaging. Trump cannot be allowed to get on social media, call into Fox, etc and talk about these conspiracy theories. Folks are free to discuss their AM-radio conspiracies here and elsewhere but you CANNOT have a Presidential nominee getting within a mile of this stuff.
Both campaigns are essentially competing for the same voters in a handful of states. Most of those voters are educated and aren’t getting the actual R platform message because of all the nonsense coming from the top of the ticket. Ds have a lot of policy liabilities and that should be the consistent message up and down the R organization. Until the last couple of weeks it would be difficult to identify more than a couple of missteps by the Trump campaign since the primaries started. Now it’s as if the wheels are falling off. This is more reminiscent of the RNC troubles of the last 6 months ish.
Both campaigns are essentially competing for the same voters in a handful of states. Most of those voters are educated and aren’t getting the actual R platform message because of all the nonsense coming from the top of the ticket. Ds have a lot of policy liabilities and that should be the consistent message up and down the R organization. Until the last couple of weeks it would be difficult to identify more than a couple of missteps by the Trump campaign since the primaries started. Now it’s as if the wheels are falling off. This is more reminiscent of the RNC troubles of the last 6 months ish.
Not a compatible situation to 16. Still a long way to go in this cycle though and anything can happen. 16 election was poorly managed up and down by Ds compounded by low turnout after the excitement of the Obama years.
Can’t wait to hear how team Kommiela and MSM spin this one!
lexxnchloe
Member
Trump is still stuck in the past. Ann Coulter said it months ago. The party that got rid of its old geezer would win in a landslide.On 7/19 (6 days after being shot and the day after his RNC speech), Trump peaked at 69 on PredictIt. Today, he’s at a 90+ day low of only 45. On the day when she entered the race (7/21), Harris was only at 40 to Trump’s 60. Now Harris is up to 59, up 14 over Trump’s 45. This is all fwiw since this data is based on a betting market. Regardless, the 3 week trend is quite notable and indicates Trump’s not doing well:
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GoDuke
Member
so dems believe illegal immigrants should be allowed to vote in our elections??? Because they block legislation that would prevent it at all costs.
lexxnchloe
Member
Trump in 2016 brought people to the party and he appealed to enough dems in MI,PA,WI to win. Now the name calling is just getting old. His campaign speeches are the same stories retold 500 times now. Its incredible with 82 days till the election and he sits at Mar-A-Lago steaming and boiling over about crowd sizes.
Interesting because his poll numbers are higher than they've ever been in prior elections.
severestorm
Member
Guarantee when Iran delivers it's response and Russia musters the balls to do what it should do, that will put Biden and Harris to the test. The East basically will control the narrative going forward.
severestorm
Member
Remember all those libs crying and breaking into pieces when she lost in 2016. I can dig some videos up if you like.
This kind of thing pushes the boundaries of what even the terminally-online people can believe. The Harris/Walz campaign won’t need to waste any time defending unambiguous statements like that. Can’t see them wading into the weird pecking order of vet communities either as they argue over who’s deployment counted or not.
2016 was IMHO the humble pie the D organization needed because when I went back to private industry after 2014 there were already a lot of issues in the national org with Obama people exiting and Hillary people coming in. Totally different perspectives and an overall lack of professionalism. But hey it was “her turn” and nothing could stop that.
Foreign policy hasn’t been a deciding factor in an election since Vietnam.
lexxnchloe
Member
And yet panic is clearly setting in.
Not really.
Avalanche
Member
Sorry I’m not seeing any panic, really from either side.
lexxnchloe
Member
I hate to tell you man, but evidently, people enjoy his speeches, because they're maxing out all the time.
The reality is, Trump himself is not going to move the needle for undecideds. It's going to come down to whether or not the country gets to see actual Kamala Harris at any point over the next few months. When you have a corrupt political process and a completely captured media apparatus, you have a huge advantage.
The Dems can sit back, keep Kamala in the basement, and report about Trump only the things you like to constantly bring up in here. It doesn't matter what the man says or does. The media will report only the things that make him look bad and and spin everything else.
In the end, it's not going to come down to what Trump says. He's a 100% known quantity. It's going to come down to how safe people feel, how much war they like, how much they like to spend in order to live, and how much freedom they like vs how many abortions they want to have. That's pretty much it.
Trump is not going to be covered fairly, and Kamala is going to be kept in the basement for as long as possible. There's nothing he can do between now and the election that is going to make a difference in the undecideds.
GeorgiaGirl
Member
If anything, it's possible it's a reverse 2016 with the vote for Haley/DeSantis in the primary truly being a sizeable protest vote and not just "dems mucking it up in the primary", with Trump fans being convinced that he's going to win to the end and getting a nasty surprise.
"ducks"
I'm going to wait personally until we get some electoral polling in September, it probably would be for the best.
The winning formula for Republicans would be to focus on cumulative inflation and the border. It wouldn't include relitigating anything from 2020 really or name calling as lexx said.