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Political Thread: The Sequel

Shaggy said:
So vance doesn't believe people without children should vote and people with children should have extra votes. Bunch of idiots
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Rain Cold said:
Well, Kamala believes that people should be thrown in prison if they criticize democrats.
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Let's do this, both show evidence of both. Neutral sources only for both.

If it's true on both, we truly have chosen the bottom of the barrel for political "leaders"
 
ForsythSnow said:
Let's do this, both show evidence of both. Neutral sources only for both.

If it's true on both, we truly have chosen the bottom of the barrel for political "leaders"
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No no, if Shaggy and Downeast are going to come in here and sh#tpost and just make stuff up all day, then we might as well too. You can't have any kind of conversation if one side is hell bent on lying about everything or taking it out of context on purpose.
 
When you have children you carry a responsibility to Vote in their best interest until they are 18 years old. When I go to vote in November I vote for not only my interest but the interest of my daughter as well. There is a difference than those that vote solely for themselves.
Now that doesn't mean everyone shouldn't have an opportunity to vote, obviously everyone legal should get that chance. But the "never parents group" deciding policies for the parental groups can be a bit odd.
 
ForsythSnow said:
Let's do this, both show evidence of both. Neutral sources only for both.

If it's true on both, we truly have chosen the bottom of the barrel for political "leaders"
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He calls it a thought experiment but has said things like this going back to 2021.

abcnews.go.com

JD Vance says mass deportations should 'start with 1 million,' defends 'thought experiment' giving parents extra votes

GOP vice presidential candidate JD Vance spoke with ABC News' Jonathan Karl about a wide variety of topics including immigration and his views on childless Americans.
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Thor said:
When you have children you carry a responsibility to Vote in their best interest until they are 18 years old. When I go to vote in November I vote for not only my interest but the interest of my daughter as well. There is a difference than those that vote solely for themselves.
Now that doesn't mean everyone shouldn't have an opportunity to vote, obviously everyone legal should get that chance. But the "never parents group" deciding policies for the parental groups can be a bit odd.
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Funny concept. I find it odd that christian families deciding policies for non-christian families is acceptable if that's the principle you hold.
 
Rain Cold said:
No no, if Shaggy and Downeast are going to come in here and sh#tpost and just make stuff up all day, then we might as well too. You can't have any kind of conversation if one side is hell bent on lying about everything or taking it out of context on purpose.
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Then this only means that the argument you make cannot stand in this context to your statement. Take all the politics/opinion out of it and strip it down to basic evidence presentation in an argument being made and that's what the question is.
 
Shaggy said:
Funny concept. I find it odd that christian families deciding policies for non-christian families is acceptable if that's the principle you hold.
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You always have to bring religion into it. Thor was not even speaking about Christianity. You have such a bitterness in your brain that you can't even see what's going on.
 
Thor said:
When you have children you carry a responsibility to Vote in their best interest until they are 18 years old. When I go to vote in November I vote for not only my interest but the interest of my daughter as well. There is a difference than those that vote solely for themselves.
Now that doesn't mean everyone shouldn't have an opportunity to vote, obviously everyone legal should get that chance. But the "never parents group" deciding policies for the parental groups can be a bit odd.
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This is a one-point argument that makes no sense when you apply to everything else. Abortion issues? Only women can vote since they're the one with the child in them. Issues relating to a group of people? Only they can vote since everyone else isn't affected. Investment in public transportation? Only people in the city can vote since the rural people won't be using those in the cities. The RIGHT to vote applies to everyone over 18 aside from the disqualifications for crime. You shouldn't strip it away from those or re-distribute it just to push an agenda. It's as bad as allowing illegal immigrants to vote, it's pure hypocrisy.
 
Shaggy said:
He calls it a thought experiment but has said things like this going back to 2021.

abcnews.go.com

JD Vance says mass deportations should 'start with 1 million,' defends 'thought experiment' giving parents extra votes

GOP vice presidential candidate JD Vance spoke with ABC News' Jonathan Karl about a wide variety of topics including immigration and his views on childless Americans.
abcnews.go.com abcnews.go.com
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Adding votes to those with children is a bad path and also one that would be entirely exploited by the left as well to get more votes. I can give him it's a "thought experiment" but the idea at all is not a good one as it undermines our voting system in general.
 
ForsythSnow said:
Then this only means that the argument you make cannot stand in this context to your statement. Take all the politics/opinion out of it and strip it down to basic evidence presentation in an argument being made and that's what the question is.
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Huh? Did you swipe Kamala's noted or something? What are you saying?
 
ForsythSnow said:
I'm saying if you can answer the question I asked then your statement is valid. If you can't answer the question then your statement is invalid. It isn't that hard.
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Where did you ask me a question? Maybe that's why I was confused. If I missed your question to me, I'm sorry about that. What is it you want to know?
 
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