Not a bad look, nice Atlantic Canada low here, that’s about it
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Ostrich December
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Ron Burgundy
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Exactly. I had to wear a jacket to get our Christmas tree this week. Usually I’m wearing a t-shirt and sweating. I’ll take a climo December anytime. Plus there was snow on my car this week, so #winning.
The bering/aleutian ridge will eventually stink for us but before the wheels fall off we have a chance to sneak something through. I'm interested to see if the Aleutians/bering ridge bridges to the ural ridge and we get a -ao and force the pv into Canada. The longer term play there could be really nice in January but would be not good for late December
It'd be really cool if the wind wasn't blowing 56 mph
On to wave number 4 now !! Need to start naming these to archive all of our fails 
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Logan Is An Idiot 02
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Ground conditions at sunrise not too shabby to start December...
1st - snow
2nd - frost
3rd - frost
4th - wet (rain)
5th - frost
1st - snow
2nd - frost
3rd - frost
4th - wet (rain)
5th - frost
I really hope we score in mid December, because this is dogfreakingshit 
Dewpoint Dan
Member
Doesnt look bad for Central and South Florida.
NoSnowATL
Member
January will save us............................................
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You all are forgetting we have the EPS to hug.
smast16
Member
Finally manage to shrug the SER off our back for a few weeks and there's no cold air on the continent. Lolz.
Replace the h with a d and the g with a d and that’s what it’s gonna be
Don’t you love lakes cutters ? Table setter 
Now this is a decent look
RVD
Meteorology Student
It would be nice to not have to try to finesse waves diving south over Minnesota/Wisconsin, lol.
Webberweather53
Meteorologist
The stubborn a** Alaskan Vortex made whatever -EPO we were gonna see in the long range nearly non-existent. One day dip barely below zero is all that's left of this.
Is there any chance get that AK vortex the retrograde a bit towards the Aleutians and maybe allow some heights to build in the west ? At least we would have a shot at some very transient +PNA towards late dec
Yeah I know it’s a huge longshot
Edit * and the cold would suck
Webberweather53
Meteorologist
Is there any chance get that AK vortex the retrograde a bit towards the Aleutians and maybe allow some heights to build in the west ? At least we would have a shot at some very transient +PNA towards late dec
Yeah I know it’s a huge longshot
Edit * and the cold would suck
Yeah, I wish I could offer some hope right now, but this tropical forcing look spells huge dumpster fire in late December & big AK vortex/Aleutian ridge. I was hoping we'd possibly get some -NAO to hold off this warm-up that's coming, but don't see that happening unfortunately.
What’s new at this point wrt tropical forcing, seems to always suck around this time the last few years, hopefully we can get a return of some more favorable TF in Jan
Webberweather53
Meteorologist
I guess if you want to hope for something or anything at this point, hope we see more central Indian Ocean convection vs Maritime Continent in late December, that would help pull back the AK vortex at least a little/enough to potentially get a repeat of this week's pattern. I'd certainly be modestly interested in that despite the similar issues w/ cold air, given we'd have about another 4-5F of climo to play with near the end of Dec
Webberweather53
Meteorologist
On the bright side, the SE US is literally the only place in the entire western hemisphere that isn't under a subtropical ridge near the end of the EPS.
Yay?
Yay?
Webberweather53
Meteorologist
Is there any chance get that AK vortex the retrograde a bit towards the Aleutians and maybe allow some heights to build in the west ? At least we would have a shot at some very transient +PNA towards late dec
Yeah I know it’s a huge longshot
Edit * and the cold would suck
The 12z Euro control heard you apparently (you beat me to it, lol weenie). Still have a big Alaskan vortex & +NAO, but the wavelengths shortened a bit over the N Pacific & then bam we popped a +PNA and dislodged a nice chunk of cold air from Alaska and sent it hurdling our way.
+PNA ridges like what we're seeing this week, usually don't deliver absurdly cold, truly arctic masses into the SE US, but if we by some miracle found one in late December, things would be different actually because Alaska is going to be loaded w/ Siberian air thanks to next week's -WPO.
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BHS1975
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Thats beautimus right there! Hopefully will come to fruition
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Logan Is An Idiot 02
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Gfs looks horrible for the rest of the month
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Dewpoint Dan
Member
Do you ever have any good news ?
find it interesting that the CFS is basically wash, rinse repeat, get Alaskan low with PNA ridge that slowly retrogrades NW, quickly becomes -EPO than -WPO, Then repeats with another gulf of Alaska/Alaskan low through the end of the run, did this like 3-4 times
Cad Wedge NC
Member
He's a troll...... Just put him on ignore.
Lots of potential if the right setup can appear. I like seeing the cold in the northern US and Canada. We've seen some very warm temps in that location recently. Like you said we just need to get it funneled towards us.
That’s another possibility where we don’t get lucky with a +PNA and the TPV stays over AK then rather near the Aleutians
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Logan Is An Idiot 02
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Saying that a model doesn't look good is not being a troll?
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What. A. Disaster.