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Pattern July '22

Stump said:
Can't remember the last time we had measurable rain IMBY. Everything is dead and crunchy, grass everywhere is brown. Corn in the fields is less than 2ft tall. I think the area around my house may be one of the driest in the state currently.
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The spot where I have my vegetable garden in Southeastern Wake County might give your area some competition. My corn did make it up to four feet tall before tasseling. My watermelons, cantaloupes and cucumbers are toast. My squash plants and okra will be the next to go if this dry weather continues. My tomato, eggplant and pepper plants are hanging in there for now. The past few summers have been wet comparatively speaking so I guess we just forgot what a drought looks like in Central and Eastern North Carolina. I'm hoping this week will have at least a couple of days with some significant rain.
 
SD said:
Have you ever looked at the probabilities within the convective outlooks? They typically aren't that high in this part of the country and usually boil down to low percent chances that equal less than 1 severe report per county. Media would do a big service if they started speaking in probability and not broad brushing level x with no context imo
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Another reason why having 5 levels with wording that doesn't make sense does more bad than good. Four levels are enough, and actually have descriptions that don't contradict each other.
 
I like the 3 levels of slight, moderate, and high risk. That seemed to work pretty well for years.

I'm not trying to be contrary, but I don't really like probability forecasting all that much. But it is the trendy thing now, particularly when it comes to snow. For example, you'll be in a probability zone of 70% likelihood of >4" of snow 24 hours out and then end up with .5".

They've gotten too cute with the severe zones. A Slight Risk should raise awareness that severe is a possibility, where as a High Risk should be rare and rightly so, put people on high alert for an outbreak.

I'm not sure how you message the risk of thunderstorms/rain concurrently with the risk of any of those storms becoming severe. We have a 60% chance of storms but only a 20% probability that any of those will become severe.

In general, the public is going to be slow to really understand any particular system and the media is going to hype everything up to the Nth degree anyway.

I think that to a large extent, many in the forecasting community have become lazy, relying on the wide prevalence of modeling and infinitely instantaneous streams of data, sacrificing experience and good old fashioned elbow grease forecasting. Technology is helpful, but it doesn't replace experience, instinct, pattern recognition, and hard work. But the general public doesn't much care about any of that.
 
Rain Cold said:
I like the 3 levels of slight, moderate, and high risk. That seemed to work pretty well for years.

I'm not trying to be contrary, but I don't really like probability forecasting all that much. But it is the trendy thing now, particularly when it comes to snow. For example, you'll be in a probability zone of 70% likelihood of >4" of snow 24 hours out and then end up with .5".

They've gotten too cute with the severe zones. A Slight Risk should raise awareness that severe is a possibility, where as a High Risk should be rare and rightly so, put people on high alert for an outbreak.

I'm not sure how you message the risk of thunderstorms/rain concurrently with the risk of any of those storms becoming severe. We have a 60% chance of storms but only a 20% probability that any of those will become severe.

In general, the public is going to be slow to really understand any particular system and the media is going to hype everything up to the Nth degree anyway.

I think that to a large extent, many in the forecasting community have become lazy, relying on the wide prevalence of modeling and infinitely instantaneous streams of data, sacrificing experience and good old fashioned elbow grease forecasting. Technology is helpful, but it doesn't replace experience, instinct, pattern recognition, and hard work. But the general public doesn't much care about any of that.
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Amen. And not sure what dictionary and thesaurus the SPC used, but moderate means average, and enhanced means above average.
 
gawxnative said:
Kind of got "skipped over" here last night, as outflow died, but then triggered the nee convection over "Atlanta Core" .. but prior night got 2.48" so no complaints locally
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2.19 in my gauge from last evening, it was very loud and intense, ATL is very soggy right now,
 
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