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Wintry January 21-23 2025

Again with the speak in absolutes at day 6 is astonishing. For one that simply isn't correct regarding a NW shift. There is just small tweaks thhat have to happen to get the entire southeast involved here.
Yeah. There’s a bit of a similarity there to the 1/28/2014 storm. I remember Brad P saying a day before that one that there wouldn’t be a NW shift because the cold air mass was just too strong and there ended up being significant snow back to the mountains. Right now we’re looking at a similar air mass to that one. Also, we all know from experience that these end up being much expansive on the NW side than what is shown at this time. I go to the map the WPC released this morning. Those guys know what they’re doing and have that map for a reason
 
This looks like its Miller A type consensus, no over runner. Also tells me MBY needs to root for a hug the GOM track, not out in the Gulf. And/Or a deepening while riding through GOM coastline. Don't see it being able to turn its heading enough NE to ride up Carolina coast at an angle sharp enough to throw moisture back this way, unless it really deepened/ amped up coming out of GOM..
 
If you don’t get any help from the Baja low you’re most likely looking at a northerly flow dominant system that remains suppressed and gives the beaches a wild once in a blue moon event which I’m sure they are quite due for.

You add the Baja low and now you have much more energy and moisture to work with and you get a CMC solution.

Still have to assume the GFS is out to lunch but it’s hard to believe the model is failing so badly inside 150 hours. Certainly not to be trusted going forward if it completely folds .. which it hasn’t yet..
 
This should probably go into the complaining thread but I really wish some meteorologist would stop speaking in absolutes especially when it's still nearly a week out. There's nothing that says things won't trend better or worse at this point. It's a guessing game right now.
Yep. When you’re dealing with a populace where the area shuts down when there is a FLAKE, let alone what may occur, you have to wait until 2-3 days out to get more than that
 
The CMC and EC aren’t even crazy different, but the CMC swallows up the ULL and that seemingly gives us better results
Yes I think you're right, that seems to be the difference later in the run. CMC has it just a little further southeast where it can pull it in. It's really a minor difference overall.
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If I had to guess the most recent Euro run is the final and most probably outcome. Bigger storm on the coast, almost nothing up this way.
Brother you really gotta absorb information in here. The things you post are emotionally driven. Take time to take the valuable info in.
 
If you don’t get any help from the Baja low you’re most likely looking at a northerly flow dominant system that remains suppressed and gives the beaches a wild once in a blue moon event which I’m sure they are quite due for.

You add the Baja low and now you have much more energy and moisture to work with and you get a CMC solution.

Still have to assume the GFS is out to lunch but it’s hard to believe the model is failing so badly inside 150 hours. Certainly not to be trusted going forward if it completely folds .. which it hasn’t yet..
Charleston got smoked with a bomb cyclone 6-7 years ago.
 
The latest Euro run looks promising so far. It is much better than the 00Z run and now getting close to some of the other models as far as snow for a good portion of the Southeast. The forecast discussions at the NWS offices around the Southeast ought to make for some interesting reading when they are updated again.
 
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