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Wintry January 21-23 2025

can anyone comment on if this model is beginning to get consistent on this? it is seared into my mind how this model locked in on the last storm around this range and generally held that look in a chokehold until verification
It's been jumping around a bit more than I would have expected based on its performance with the last storm.....it's not locked in yet
 
can anyone comment on if this model is beginning to get consistent on this? it is seared into my mind how this model locked in on the last storm around this range and generally held that look in a chokehold until verification
It's been pretty consistent the last 4-5 runs with the large scale features, imo. (just undulating with the strength of the wave and how much it's rooted in to the main trough). (But it's showing signs of settling in, imo)

It locked on to the last storm between 144-168hrs... and that's about where we are getting now with this one, as such, every run coming out in this timeframe is critically important in my mind.
 
Not 60% chance of suppression, but 60% chance of no low forming at all?? So they're saying 60% to GFS vs 40% for ECMWF/EPS/AIFS/ICON/CMC/CMCE/UKMET/MOGREPs ??? Doesn't make much sense to me.
I would in that area too....they cant broadcast anything wintry down that far until 36hrs out when its 100% known. If theres ANY possibility it could go nothing id hug that like crazy too
 
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There needs to be something that kicks the wave in the SW east - either an upstream kicker wave that arrives from the NW or movement of the NE Pacific ridge east (or combo of the 2)
Maybe I'm jaded or not very smart (probably both) but that loop that 1300 shared a few post back of the Euro ENS H5 height/vorticity map was a little concerning to me. Didn't like the look of the pac ridge trying to pinch off/roll over the top (wave break?), allowing that SW to continue to push west
 
would love to know more about Jan 1940
My grandma remembered that storm. She was an 11 year old girl on a farm in Louisiana near the MS/LA line back then. She told us how she had been so excited at first to see snow, but that the cold that followed for the next several days meant the snow stuck, so she hated having to deal with it for so long. That was her first time seeing snow too.
 
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Maybe I'm jaded or not very smart (probably both) but that loop that 1300 shared a few post back of the Euro ENS H5 height/vorticity map was a little concerning to me. Didn't like the look of the pac ridge trying to pinch off/roll over the top (wave break?), allowing that SW to continue to push west
It's a concern, yes, and don't want that trend to continue more and more.....but nice to see other modeling / other EPS members producing a good storm into the cold.
 
There needs to be something that kicks the wave in the SW east - either an upstream kicker wave that arrives from the NW or movement of the NE Pacific ridge east (or combo of the 2)
Euro AI run has a kicker wave upstream coming out of the Canadian west coast that kicks our SW wave east

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It's a concern, yes, and don't want that trend to continue more and more.....but nice to see other modeling / other EPS members producing a good storm into the cold.
It’s murky, the more we do it, the pac derived wave gets stuck, but then we start playing with the northern stream digging more and probably get a cleaner solution, don’t wanna go into the in between route though
 
It’s murky, the more we do it, the pac derived wave gets stuck, but then we start playing with the northern stream digging more and probably get a cleaner solution, don’t wanna go into the in between route though
I would prefer to kick it out into long fetch SW flow overrunning, then sharpen it just a touch as it moves east (not too much and keep it cold out front)
 
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