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Wintry January 21-23 2025

This is about as classic a surface map as you will ever see for a SE winter storm. Strong HP moving in in tandem with a wave of LP from the Gulf with an arctic air mass in place. We need to thoroughly appreciate seeing these things when they're printed out.

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There are model runs and then there is GEFS #17. Not liking the amped up members, far too early.

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17 is apocalyptic lol
 
This is about as classic a surface map as you will ever see for a SE winter storm. Strong HP moving in in tandem with a wave of LP from the Gulf with an arctic air mass in place. We need to thoroughly appreciate seeing these things when they're printed out.

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17 is apocalyptic lol
Yeah. If it winds up a amped up system , it will come north
 
Then you got the EPS doing this… and even the latest 06z looking 💰 View attachment 163292
Right now I'd definitely still lean ensembles for the general H5 pattern (good or bad trends) at this range. EC AI has been jumping around quite a bit so it's definitely not dialed in yet at this range.
 
With the WAR becoming an increasing real feature suppression becomes less of a concern. Mjo would favor the cold down the plains into tx this further leads to the idea of some type of WAR response. Again the concern here is NW or miller B not suppression imo. I also still like the idea of trying to late bloom a coastal when this whole pattern is on its way out.
 
This is about as classic a surface map as you will ever see for a SE winter storm. Strong HP moving in in tandem with a wave of LP from the Gulf with an arctic air mass in place. We need to thoroughly appreciate seeing these things when they're printed out.



17 is apocalyptic lol

I would be on the roof shoveling snow while worrying about roof collapse. Haha
 
Dang!!! I haven’t seen crazy runs like I’ve seen through the thread in years!!!! There was one model that always buried us on 384 hours.. forgot the name.. but geez!! This is next week!!! We couldn’t buy a fantasy run in the last couple years!

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Yeah, the GFS seems keen on a system for sure, and that was a glorious 6z run. Makes me frustrated just seeing it knowing we haven't had one in 20 years. lol.

I too don't think a whiff/completely suppressed is believable. I've got to think with the trough to our west, and with a WAR, that we get a system with alot of qpf over the SE. What that does to the temps, don't know right now. But man if we have a 1040+ high in NY during go time like GFS, I'd be ALOT less worried.

Waiting on the EPS to tag in. It's looked pretty uninterested and suppressed the last couple days. Honestly GEFS honking isn't real until the EPS is.
 
Yeah, the GFS seems keen on a system for sure, and that was a glorious 6z run. Makes me frustrated just seeing it knowing we haven't had one in 20 years. lol.

I too don't think a whiff/completely suppressed is believable. I've got to think with the trough to our west, and with a WAR, that we get a system with alot of qpf over the SE. What that does to the temps, don't know right now. But man if we have a 1040+ high in NY during go time like GFS, I'd be ALOT less worried.

Waiting on the EPS to tag in. It's looked pretty uninterested and suppressed the last couple days. Honestly GEFS honking isn't real until the EPS is.
EPS looks good though
 
Yeah, the GFS seems keen on a system for sure, and that was a glorious 6z run. Makes me frustrated just seeing it knowing we haven't had one in 20 years. lol.

I too don't think a whiff/completely suppressed is believable. I've got to think with the trough to our west, and with a WAR, that we get a system with alot of qpf over the SE. What that does to the temps, don't know right now. But man if we have a 1040+ high in NY during go time like GFS, I'd be ALOT less worried.

Waiting on the EPS to tag in. It's looked pretty uninterested and suppressed the last couple days. Honestly GEFS honking isn't real until the EPS is.
00z EPS was honking about as loud as you could ever hope for at this range and lines up quite well with the 06z GEFS. Long way out, but I thought that was a big signal for a storm in general. If this signal holds or improves over the next 48-72 hours that would be a good sign we could be tracking something significant.
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Have been pleasantly surprised by this January and Winter as a whole so far. Briefly saw some sleet (no accumulation) with the last event. Although the odds for snow in my neck of the woods is never high this setup next week looks to be the most legit shot we've had since 2018. Bring it home models!

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ICON is suppressed at 180 hours. 700mb winds were out of the west southwest but then shifted to west northwest at 180 hours. No over-running is gonna happen there. View attachment 163310
I promise you don't want to see the tweaks happening yet. This needs to stay right where it is another 3 days at least IMO
 
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