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Wintry January 21-23 2025


Yeah, I'm liking the NAM trends at 300mb for the Coastal Plain, the more north-easterly component to that jet the better, it's certainly trending towards being sharper each run. That usually sets up areas around the Albermarle Sound and back towards the SW, which is similar to what the NAM is now showing. I know, grasping at straws, but at-least the model is showing why it's increasing totals in that area.
 
IIRC, it verified even a little further West than that, correct? It's interesting because that last panel is pretty much at the same time range as the 18z runs are today. I know I got some flurries from that system and my notes say Spartanburg got an inch.
 
IIRC, it verified even a little further West than that, correct? It's interesting because that last panel is pretty much at the same time range as the 18z runs are today. I know I got some flurries from that system and my notes say Spartanburg got an inch.

Correct. Quite a bit further west than that, actually.

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I would be a little surprised if this performs as well as 2022 for CNC. At least the RGEM had some decent clown maps at this lead, we may just be hunting a 1” event around here whereas before it seemed a dusting would be the best case
 
I’m going to press x doubt that this is going to be just light snow or virga for most of East-Central NC. There’s going to be some moderate to heavy rates wherever snow occurs.

This pivoting band of low level frontogenesis on an initially advancing low to mid level warm front, then a crashing cold front, argues for a lot more than just light snow.

This could easily put down a few inches or more if you get stuck under that. Models currently advertising that to setup shop near the I-95 corridor.

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I saw a mid Atlantic met mention in the post storm model analysis from yesterday’s storm that the actual frotogenesis band setup 30 miles further north than all of the models. Do you see something similar happening for us, or is the placement a bit of a wild card?
 
IIRC, it verified even a little further West than that, correct? It's interesting because that last panel is pretty much at the same time range as the 18z runs are today. I know I got some flurries from that system and my notes say Spartanburg got an inch.
Yes back towards the foothills ended up with 1 inch. CLT got 2 and I got 2.7
 
Holy smokes that was almost the exact same lead time too. Wow

IIRC, it verified even a little further West than that, correct? It's interesting because that last panel is pretty much at the same time range as the 18z runs are today. I know I got some flurries from that system and my notes say Spartanburg got an inch.
Yep. Chose those panels because that was the exact lead time as this setup, where we starting seeing drastic shifts west, and columns getting more moist
 
I'm expecting the national weather service center from Columbia to issue atleast winter weather advisories for the I-20 around Augusta and Columbia within the next couple of hours. Models are trending towards atleast a light event if not more.
If they're smart, they will wait until 3AM, if not 12z tomorrow or so.
 
I saw a mid Atlantic met mention in the post storm model analysis from yesterday’s storm that the actual frotogenesis band setup 30 miles further north than all of the models. Do you see something similar happening for us, or is the placement a bit of a wild card?

Yeah a lot of times that’s because the low to mid level frontogenesis occurs below the snow growth zone. By the time it’s lifted into the column, it’s advected upward & downstream towards colder air. Hence the horizontal displacement
 
Not sure if this has much bearing on the situation, but right now, in Kansas, it is pouring snow when they were forecast to only have a light snow shower or a dusting at best. I have a friend there reporting giant flakes and accumulating snow. There is a ton of moisture in the northern branch, too.
 
This thread seems to be nothing but wishcasting atp. Can anyone explain based on what the models are currently suggesting as to why we could see more moisture/ NW trend? Or a repeat Jan of 2014?
Tilt, equals more QPF into orientation / column ect. HP weakening allowing slight ticks West instead of bullying the LP into Africa
 
This thread seems to be nothing but wishcasting atp. Can anyone explain based on what the models are currently suggesting as to why we could see more moisture/ NW trend? Or a repeat Jan of 2014?

It’s not so much wish casting but all of the models have an overrunning situation now and the shift of that has been further to the NW on all of the models that have come in recently


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