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Wintry January 21-23 2025

Just a word of caution to those in southern LA, MS, AL… don’t discount the NAM on that warm nose it’s showing for those areas, even at this range. A lot of have seen too many times what looked to be a solid 4-6” snowfall turn into primarily ZR or sleet with the NAM picking up on that warm nose first. If it continues to show that then the New Orleans NWS office will likely have to start seriously backing off on snowfall accumulations

I kinda figured we would have some mixing issues of sorts, a ZR/IP to Snow scenario is fine, just don’t want an Ice Storm
 
Yeah, despite all other models showing snow for my area, and plenty of it, I know it's also easy to fail and get sleet instead of snow with these storms. So I can't ignore the NAM totally. I just hope the snow line is exaggerated somewhat, since I live just north of Baton Rouge, near the MS state line. Aren't the best rates usually near the mix line?
You are right. Some of the best snowfall rates I’ve ever seen occurred for me in the first 4 hours of the February 2014 storm. The initial FGEN set up right over me with the sleet line about 25 miles to my south and east. I got nearly 6” in four hours before the sleet line moved north
 
The RGEM from 84 hours hasn't budged and is in line with the globals for the event starting tomorrow...

this is 36 hours...60 hours...and 84....

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Feel like nam/rgem are perfectly fine to look at for the longer range, just knowing they’re likely a little more subject to change than the globals when you’re bumping into the end of their range.
 
Feel like nam/rgem are perfectly fine to look at for the longer range, just knowing they’re likely a little more subject to change than the globals when you’re bumping into the end of their range.
Agree. Ignoring them is more dangerous than the other extreme of putting all your faith in them IMO
 
What do you mean? Are you saying it’s gonna stay north or move south?


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I’m not really saying whether it will move north or south. What I’m referring to is that we’ve seen the global models really point to that area as getting a mainly snow event but now with the NAM coming into range, it showing a warm nose and giving that area mainly sleet and freezing rain. The NAM is dead on about the warm nose 95% of the time.
 
So the closer it gets the chance it turns to rain?


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I wouldn’t say that. You’ve still got a cold airmass but there’s a lot of warm air pulled from the gulf into that cold airmass which causes the upper levels to torch. Happens here all the time. You guys need to pull for a weaker system
 
Hate to post a purely personal issue but how would you all feel about having a 2:00pm Tuesdat flight out of Hartsfield? I absolutely dont want to get stuck at the airport…
 
The RGEM from 84 hours hasn't budged and is in line with the globals for the event starting tomorrow...

this is 36 hours...60 hours...and 84....

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Hey the RGEM was dang solid for the entire last even including the first to really scream about the southern finger of snow across AL. At the last moment I discounted it and it made me look like stupid.
 
I’m not really saying whether it will move north or south. What I’m referring to is that we’ve seen the global models really point to that area as getting a mainly snow event but now with the NAM coming into range, it showing a warm nose and giving that area mainly sleet and freezing rain. The NAM is dead on about the warm nose 95% of the time.

Oh I thought the NAM always overdid things


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And that’s with your HP probably 5mb too strong
Even with the HP probably about 5-7mb stronger than what will verify, that’s still a look that should transfer well for the I-20 and I-85 corridors. Oh and I’ve been in your camp on the phasing for a couple days. I’m not convinced that we need phasing here to end up with a pretty good storm
 
Hate to post a purely personal issue but how would you all feel about having a 2:00pm Tuesdat flight out of Hartsfield? I absolutely dont want to get stuck at the airport…
You should be fine. Later on is when things get going. They may be slow due to de-icing but that would be it.
 
Not really a great start trend-wise to the 12z runs. Certainly not counting on the GFS to turn it around. Probably will see the CMC continuing to slowly come down to earth too.

The northern stream has got to slow down and dig more or the SW wave has to catch up.
 
It’s the winter of the positive tilt wave extending back to Baja. I guess the “Y” shape here means yes, it’s going to snow in Atlanta again

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Yeah this is nowhere near as good as last nights H5 depiction of the Canadian. I’d imagine the 12z CMC is back to earth a bit if it shows this projection
 
So for a semi newby in this stuff. It seems like west central Georgia has been a hotspot for this one for a while. Does the NW trend need to be a concern for us, or is this looking like the 50 year event type deal right now. I won’t ask any more clutter questions.
 
It sucks to be right on the edge of something historic and just miss by a few hours. The two Xs need to merge, like the NAM kind of gets to here.

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This whole area is a powelder keg. We just need to figure out how to get it to ignite.

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