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Pattern January 2020 - Operation Thaw Alaska

850’s are solid even down into upstate SC but that’s not even half the battle. I don’t like this one. It’s a pity because these weak waves provide us an opportunity for an all snow event..but I just don’t think we’ve got all the pieces here. It reminds me of a January 2011 track but with insufficient cold. It’s a shame
 
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sounding isn’t bad if we can get some heavier rates overhead.
I think getting heavier rates is ultimately going to be the deciding factor. This reminds me a bit of March 2017. I remember then seeing temperatures in the lower 50s the day before and not believing there was anyway the models I was looking at were correct that we’re giving me 1-3 inches. That system came in late at night/very early morning and what started as a 39 degree drizzle changed very quickly to a 32-33 heavy wet snow that put down close to 3 inches in MBY. It can only be good that models are right now trying to bring this in at the coldest time of the day
 
Overall didn’t like what I saw with 0z. Time is ticking and cmc went from light snow accumulations to none for Thursday here. Maybe it will come back north. Need king euro to save us or I’m ready to throw in the towel for Thursday system.
 
Overall didn’t like what I saw with 0z. Time is ticking and cmc went from light snow accumulations to none for Thursday here. Maybe it will come back north. Need king euro to save us or I’m ready to throw in the towel for Thursday system.
Can't do that after one model run man.
 
Well the HRRR has been consistent in popping some big time storms over the Charlotte area moving south eastward into SC ... what would these storms entail??
 
Nothing to hang your hat on, but 00z ECMWF spits out some snow for the NC mountains and a small sliver of snow/mixed precip in southern NC.
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pretty encouraged to see the 6z gfs improve over 00z with some more precip, and the nam (albeit the long range) continues to show more precip over northern sc/southern nc. can't help but love where we are sitting 72hrs out as we hope for the precip shield to expand northwest. would much rather be hoping for rates to overcome 2m temps with plenty cold 850s than the other way around.
 
6z euro. I don't have the 6z EPS
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Temps were good/close for many just need more precip
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However, still, plenty of time to worry about precip
 
I've noticed the NAM tends to over amp at first with precipitation then gets drier as the event gets closer anybody else noticed this?
 
I've noticed the NAM tends to over amp at first with precipitation then gets drier as the event gets closer anybody else noticed this?
I've noticed it too but I saw someone yesterday say that these systems tend to overperform more than not so maybe its right.
 
This longstanding tendency isn't necessarily true in the more recent "upgraded" versions of the model.
I forgot about the upgrade. I hope it helps. I'd love to have the total Namm'ed snow it's showed me in the last ten years lol Thanks Webb
 
If you want to still live in the south and enjoy Snow. Heres the place to be, atleast this morning it is.

The top of Grandfather looks amazing right now..check that cam out
 
Do you think this has some similarities to the March 2017 event??

This is nothing like the March 2017 event, which was a clipper that got suppressed due to a nice 50-50 low. This system is southern-stream centric oth and will be moisture starved. 4-5 days out most of us were looking at the potential for possibly a light-moderate hit in Mar 2017.

We were seeing EPS runs like this 4-5 days out.

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If you're hoping for snow in NC, this is not a trend you'd want to see pan out in NWP. The northern stream wave separating and getting out in front of our main s/w over the Gulf coast squashes our weak low pressure system further offshore, limits lift across the area, and forces the main axis of light snow towards the mid-Atlantic. We really want to root for that wave over Iowa & Missouri to phase w/ the southern stream sooner and dig further south, which would focus more CVA into NC instead of VA.


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