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Pattern January 2017 Discussion

JLL1973 link said:
how did the euro look for the northern mississippi and midsouth region

Decent hit 3-4 for the northern quarter of the state....a 1-3 stripe about 50 miles south of that then a trace to 1 about 75 miles south of that. Looks like there are some mixing issues across most of Ms as total QPF is .5-.6 but max snow is only 4 inches.
 
Here we gooo! 18z GFS is starting to roll off the hot press

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Webberweather53 link said:
On this date in 1935, a classic, prolonged overrunning/Miller B event produced the 2nd major snowstorm in less than a week in central and eastern NC. As much as a foot of snow fell just west and southwest of Charlotte in southwestern NC and extreme upstate SC. A mix of rain, snow, sleet and freezing rain occurred from the Triangle area and points southeastward owards the south-central coastal plain with snow/sleet accumulations topping out around 3-6", while mostly rain fell in the extreme southern coastal plain, including Wilmington. Eventually, most areas south & east of Raleigh changed over to mainly snow overnight on the 29th as a sub 1000mb coastal low developed east of Hatteras. As many here are already well aware, this was only the tip of the iceberg in the winter of 1935-36, as a several more winter storms would hit the state in January & February, making 1935-36 one of the snowiest winters area-wide in much of North Carolina dating back to the late 19th century.
As one would expect from modern relationships amongst southeastern US wintry wx and high-latitude blocking, the first storm, a classic coastal Miller A, not all that dissimilar from its modern cousin in December 2010, featured a robust -AO/-NAO (& even north pacific blocking), while the 2nd system, Miller B/overrunning event, on December 28-29 was dominated by primarily in the north-northwestern Pacific blocking. (-WPO/-EPO)

Lord have mercy this would be amazing
 
SD link said:
[quote author=Webberweather53 link=topic=60.msg3968#msg3968 date=1482961469]
On this date in 1935, a classic, prolonged overrunning/Miller B event produced the 2nd major snowstorm in less than a week in central and eastern NC. As much as a foot of snow fell just west and southwest of Charlotte in southwestern NC and extreme upstate SC. A mix of rain, snow, sleet and freezing rain occurred from the Triangle area and points southeastward owards the south-central coastal plain with snow/sleet accumulations topping out around 3-6", while mostly rain fell in the extreme southern coastal plain, including Wilmington. Eventually, most areas south & east of Raleigh changed over to mainly snow overnight on the 29th as a sub 1000mb coastal low developed east of Hatteras. As many here are already well aware, this was only the tip of the iceberg in the winter of 1935-36, as a several more winter storms would hit the state in January & February, making 1935-36 one of the snowiest winters area-wide in much of North Carolina dating back to the late 19th century.
As one would expect from modern relationships amongst southeastern US wintry wx and high-latitude blocking, the first storm, a classic coastal Miller A, not all that dissimilar from its modern cousin in December 2010, featured a robust -AO/-NAO (& even north pacific blocking), while the 2nd system, Miller B/overrunning event, on December 28-29 was dominated by primarily in the north-northwestern Pacific blocking. (-WPO/-EPO)

Lord have mercy this would be amazing
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Ikr! It would be like having December 2010 & then other storm a week later to go w/ it. Having only those 2 storms in a winter would be amazing, but the winter of 1935-36 was a loooonnnggg ways from being over even after December lol
 
Hey storm5 what paid site you getting your euro maps from. Thinking about signing up for the winter.
 
Re: January 2017 Discussion

HartselleWeather link said:
Hey storm5 what paid site you getting your euro maps from. Thinking about signing up for the winter.
wxbell . Can't be beat . They a free trial period as well

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Well 18z should be interesting here on future frames.
 
Shawn link said:
Well 18z should be interesting here on future frames.
Let me guess, nothing like 12z , or warmer!? :(
 
Tarheel1 link said:
[quote author=Shawn link=topic=60.msg3977#msg3977 date=1482963582]
Well 18z should be interesting here on future frames.
Let me guess, nothing like 12z , or warmer!? :(
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Cant tell yet but the cold push might be stronger.. energy dropping in on the West.. Guess we'll see soon enough.

snowing in mexico and texas by 186.
 
Looks like I missed out on some real "fun" on the 12z GFS while I was out and about. Too bad that run is close to 10 days out...
 
Shawn link said:
[quote author=Tarheel1 link=topic=60.msg3978#msg3978 date=1482963881]
[quote author=Shawn link=topic=60.msg3977#msg3977 date=1482963582]
Well 18z should be interesting here on future frames.
Let me guess, nothing like 12z , or warmer!? :(
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Cant tell yet but the cold push might be stronger.. energy dropping in on the West.. Guess we'll see soon enough.

snowing in mexico and texas by 186.
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Always a good start! Might end up a CAE special!
 
Webberweather53 link said:
On this date in 1935, a classic, prolonged overrunning/Miller B event produced the 2nd major snowstorm in less than a week in central and eastern NC. As much as a foot of snow fell just west and southwest of Charlotte in southwestern NC and extreme upstate SC. A mix of rain, snow, sleet and freezing rain occurred from the Triangle area and points southeastward owards the south-central coastal plain with snow/sleet accumulations topping out around 3-6", while mostly rain fell in the extreme southern coastal plain, including Wilmington. Eventually, most areas south & east of Raleigh changed over to mainly snow overnight on the 29th as a sub 1000mb coastal low developed east of Hatteras. As many here are already well aware, this was only the tip of the iceberg in the winter of 1935-36, as a several more winter storms would hit the state in January & February, making 1935-36 one of the snowiest winters area-wide in much of North Carolina dating back to the late 19th century.
As one would expect from modern relationships amongst southeastern US wintry wx and high-latitude blocking, the first storm, a classic coastal Miller A, not all that dissimilar from its modern cousin in December 2010, featured a robust -AO/-NAO (& even north pacific blocking), while the 2nd system, Miller B/overrunning event, on December 28-29 was dominated by primarily in the north-northwestern Pacific blocking. (-WPO/-EPO)

December-28-29-1935-NC-Snowmap.png

Atlanta got a severe ZR from this 12/28-9/1935 storm and a second one just 3-4 days later!
 
yeah cold push is stronger so far, system trying to get going back in texas.  might not be a fail run by any means.
 
Shawn link said:
yeah cold push is stronger so far, system trying to get going back in texas.  might not be a fail run by any means.
Yeah should be another day 11 storm

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Shawn link said:
yeah cold push is stronger so far, system trying to get going back in texas.  might not be a fail run by any means.

Suppression wouldn't be a bad thing this early.
 
yep wave 1 squashed worse than the 12z... energy looks diff on the second wave, may be slower.  still might have something.. we'll see.
 
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