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Wintry Jan 15-16 Winter Storm Discussion & Obs

This is all dependent on how strong our vort is coming out of Canada. The stronger the better. Stronger = more moisture and more ability to pull down cold air from the 50/50 and high pressure.

I like how you speak of caution here. Our TPV can’t waiver much to the east.


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This is all dependent on how strong our vort is coming out of Canada. The stronger the better. Stronger = more moisture and more ability to pull down cold air from the 50/50 and high pressure.

It also depends on how the SW trough is tilted. The more neutrally tilted it is coming down through the plains, the more likely it can draw in moist southwesterly winds which is crucial for additional moisture transport. Either that or just continue to hope it digs more and more.
 
Personally I'd rather see this being on the 12Z or 00Z rather than the 18Z run. The 18Z has thrown out some crazy model solutions on previous systems that never materialize.
 
I like how you speak of caution here. Our TPV can’t waiver much to the east.


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Even on model runs that aren’t producing snow, the TPV is in a position and has trended more favorable with the cold air feed. It’s up to our vort coming down to be strong enough and be tilted negatively enough to start cranking up the moisture and being able to tap into the cold feed
 
I would love to see this trend a little further SW and closed off in Biloxi MS moving straight east at a slow pace and crush all of Clarke Co Alabama
 
Can you imagine if that wedge is under modeled? I mean…things could really get out of hand for NGA.


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Taken verbatim, and all else being equal if the wedge can be just a bit stronger, Atlanta would be a big hit. It sure wouldn't hurt to get that surface low on the gulf coast either.
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Starting to see signs of this “clipper” more involving into a amped up low. Crazy how things are trending.
 
Would be nice if this was 12 hours out. We need good separation between our wave and the one behind it. That one appeared much weaker on this run. We also need the one before it to help crank that quasi-50/50 and keep the flow a little slower to allow our wave to dig more and also to help keep a northerly low level feed in here. Feels like a laundry list of things to ask for, but I guess that's why these kinds of storms are so rare. But when they do hit, man they are fun.

These waves are going to be in and out of the raob network, so I wouldn't be surprised to see some backing off at some point, followed by a comeback as we get closer.
 
Clippers definitely aren’t the best way to get snow in the South. So many things that can go wrong, especially this far out. At least there is something to track for now….just wouldn’t be getting my hopes up for anywhere until we get a couple of days closer.
 
The system that develops into the 50/50 is so crucial.

The low dropping down in central Canada is a monkey wrench though. ?‍♂️

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Need to watch that, that could ruin this setup by interfering with the ridge to our west and making our system not dig as much, just something to watch for now
 
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