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Pattern Jammin January 2024

Sigh. So much for EPS being the king over the GEFS. Western trough it is...again. :mad: I guess we hope for 50/50s that wedge us into a Miller B.

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Sigh. So much for EPS being the king over the GEFS. Western trough it is...again. :mad: I guess we hope for 50/50s that wedge us into a Miller B.

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Double barrel ridge over the poles and TPV in the Hudson? Yeah I’ll believe that all dumps out west when I see it. Maybe we do suck that bad these days but that’s a perfect setup for cold in the east
 
Probably a little after that hopefully. The EPS looks like it wants to dump west even at the end but that may be more split flow lowering heights out west. The ridge over Alaska and Greenland with the TPV over the Hudson Bay doesn't scream west coast dump to me. But I guess it's still possible. We always seem to find new ways to screw up so idk
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It’s the angle of the Alaskan ridge, but you can see it’s undercut by the jet, and probably phasing with some of the Arctic origin stuff out west, I kinda figured the EPS/GEPS may have been quick but didn’t imagine a whole fold like that. It’s not a bad look for getting legit cold nearby, but we risk getting those 2-3 days where we’re +15 ahead of a front, severe, then a 1-2 day quick but deep cold shot. We need the ridge axis over western Canada, into Alaska
 
It’s the angle of the Alaskan ridge, but you can see it’s undercut by the jet, and probably phasing with some of the Arctic origin stuff out west, I kinda figured the EPS/GEPS may have been quick but didn’t imagine a whole fold like that. It’s not a bad look for getting legit cold nearby, but we risk getting those 2-3 days where we’re +15 ahead of a front, severe, then a 1-2 day quick but deep cold shot. We need the ridge axis over western Canada, into Alaska
The ridge isn’t angled perfect but even then, with that look I’d expected more cold to go east vs west
 
The ridge isn’t angled perfect but even then, with that look I’d expected more cold to go east vs west
One thing people need to keep in mind is NW Canada is going into the deep freeze. Unlike December, when there was zero chance of deep cold making its way into the CONUS, cold will at least be nearby ready to be tapped. Get that TPV under the NAO block, and I'll take my chances even with a -PNA.
 
Sigh. So much for EPS being the king over the GEFS. Western trough it is...again. :mad: I guess we hope for 50/50s that wedge us into a Miller B.

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This happens every winter. Then we get the verification scores posted. Then the EPS shows cold again. Then we party. Then it shifts back to a western or Central US trough.

You really should go with the model that shows the trough to the west. For some reason, that's what the atmosphere wants to do year in and year out, with the occasional rare exception. Unless all three suites align with cold in the east, go with the one that dumps the cold out west. It doesn't matter which one it is.

With that, I'm done for the day. Y'all have at it.
 
The EURO has a bias to almost always drop the trough out west but corrects to a more eastern one by the time it gets in the 48 hour range. All models have biases and some are very pronounced especially in the longer 5-7 day range. Not saying we are going to reel in as storm on
Sat/Sun, but it is possible. I think our better chances for storms is Jan 20-Feb 10th which is pretty much the climo default
 
Sigh. So much for EPS being the king over the GEFS. Western trough it is...again. :mad: I guess we hope for 50/50s that wedge us into a Miller B.

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48 hour changes from the 13th-15th GFS ensemble
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Ha, yeah the EPS moved west with the pattern at the end and the morning GEFS moved east. Now is the time when we need some Pac Jet extension. The MJO isn't going to help with that. Building Siberia high moving into E Asia could
 
One thing people need to keep in mind is NW Canada is going into the deep freeze. Unlike December, when there was zero chance of deep cold making its way into the CONUS, cold will at least be nearby ready to be tapped. Get that TPV under the NAO block, and I'll take my chances even with a -PNA.
The PNA being negative is not good. I know there will be folks that talk about the strong negative NAO. But I read somewhere in most cases it only helps the mid-Atlantic and NE. And from everything I've seen over the years, we need the PNA positive (...in most cases).

 
The PNA being negative is not good. I know there will be folks that talk about the strong negative NAO. But I read somewhere in most cases it only helps the mid-Atlantic and NE. And from everything I've seen over the years, we need the PNA positive (...in most cases).

I still argue that with a PV split and a TPV lobe taking up shop south of Hudson Bay locked in by a strongly -NAO, even with a -PNA (not strongly negative of course), a CONUS-wide wintery pattern is on the table.
 
I still argue that with a PV split and a TPV lobe taking up shop south of Hudson Bay, even with a -PNA (not strongly negative of course), a CONUS-wide wintery pattern is on the table.
I sure hope so. Seen too many times where we need some stronger ridging in the west to keep the storms south. Otherwise, we keep getting the same storm tracks currently modeled. Great for everybody just north of us but we always miss out.
 
That timeframe is kind of like the Bermuda Triangle. Sometimes you jump in and never come out the other side alive

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immense respect to yourself and webb and myfrotho and all the other long range acolytes because that is a skillset i simply do not have and have no motivation to develop lol. the 300 hr ensembles may as well be an ouija board to me
 
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