You are correct. Probably hard to zero out again. I'm not even close to entertaining that possibility. I'm trying to figure out if this winter is indeed going to follow the progression of some of our nice Nino years. 65-66, 82-83, 86-87, 09-10. It may be others but right off the top of my head those are moderate to strong Ninos that had great runs after mid Jan. I'd be curious if someone
@Webberweather53 or @Myfrotho704 or some others who know how to find it what the MJO was doing in those winters during the great periods? Although I don't think MJO data goes back to the 60s though.