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Pattern Jammin January 2024

Yep you never want to go full dump. I'm sure someone may have stats to prove me wrong but I remember very few significant snow events at the front of an arctic outbreak
The only storm on the front end of an Arctic outbreak that really stands out to me is February 1996. That cold airmass came into the south right as the storm was moving across the south. Most of the time, you either see the Arctic either fully established or kinda relaxing a bit before we score.
 
The only storm on the front end of an Arctic outbreak that really stands out to me is February 1996. That cold airmass came into the south right as the storm was moving across the south. Most of the time, you either see the Arctic either fully established or kinda relaxing a bit before we score.
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Agree with Grit & you.
I'm not arguing that we don't want every Teleconnection on our side.
I know certain patterns are much more productive than others but it often still a thread the needle situation.
I'm staying positive Bc in the 100+ years of record keeping 2 snowless winters B2B haven't happened yet at GSP.
So this is our year.
Timing is going to work.
You are correct. Probably hard to zero out again. I'm not even close to entertaining that possibility. I'm trying to figure out if this winter is indeed going to follow the progression of some of our nice Nino years. 65-66, 82-83, 86-87, 09-10. It may be others but right off the top of my head those are moderate to strong Ninos that had great runs after mid Jan. I'd be curious if someone @Webberweather53 or @Myfrotho704 or some others who know how to find it what the MJO was doing in those winters during the great periods? Although I don't think MJO data goes back to the 60s though.
 
You are correct. Probably hard to zero out again. I'm not even close to entertaining that possibility. I'm trying to figure out if this winter is indeed going to follow the progression of some of our nice Nino years. 65-66, 82-83, 86-87, 09-10. It may be others but right off the top of my head those are moderate to strong Ninos that had great runs after mid Jan. I'd be curious if someone @Webberweather53 or @Myfrotho704 or some others who know how to find it what the MJO was doing in those winters during the great periods? Although I don't think MJO data goes back to the 60s though.

Here's a good link for those that want to look it up
 
Yeah it looks like Jan 83 started in 7 and 8 then moved through 3-6 in Feb. Jan 10 was low amp 5 and 6 then Feb was phase 7 and 8
So we appear in good shape for Feb either way. The end of this month I guess it depends on how strong it is running through 4, 5 and 6. Of the ones I mentioned Jan 2010 was the only one in those phases and it was weak. Jan 87 was mostly in the COD after mid Jan.
 

Here's a good link for those that want to look it up
I’m just putting in different years and I’m really surprised at some of the storms that were in supposedly bad phases.
January 1987- phase 3/4
February 1996- phase 3
January 2003- COD but close to phase 6
February 2004- phase 5
March 2009- phase 4
January 2011- phase 5/6
February 2014- COD but close to phase 5
January 2022- COD but borderline 6/7.

Of course most of January 2023 it was in COD but close to phase 8,1,2 and it was an absolute torch.
 
I wouldn’t be shocked at all to see a snow to ice to rain event north of 85 in the next ten days. Still think there’s good money in the last week of the month(along with in the banana stand).
With the snow cover getting put down in the interior NE I actually think even areas south of I-85 might be in play in the 1/16-1/21 timeframe.
 
Hope nobody gets to upset if the pacific jet overextends late month once the cold moves on. Probably gonna happen as the MJO progresses east and +EAMT comes back. Then after that, the GOAK/Aleutian low and undercut western ridge look will probably arrive, along with renewed blocking.
 
I’m just putting in different years and I’m really surprised at some of the storms that were in supposedly bad phases.
January 1987- phase 3/4
February 1996- phase 3
January 2003- COD but close to phase 6
February 2004- phase 5
March 2009- phase 4
January 2011- phase 5/6
February 2014- COD but close to phase 5
January 2022- COD but borderline 6/7.

Of course most of January 2023 it was in COD but close to phase 8,1,2 and it was an absolute torch.
Yep that's what I was saying you can't go phase x is always result y. Enso state, subseasonal effects of the Enso state, residual blocking and other things play in.
 
I’m just putting in different years and I’m really surprised at some of the storms that were in supposedly bad phases.
January 1987- phase 3/4
February 1996- phase 3
January 2003- COD but close to phase 6
February 2004- phase 5
March 2009- phase 4
January 2011- phase 5/6
February 2014- COD but close to phase 5
January 2022- COD but borderline 6/7.

Of course most of January 2023 it was in COD but close to phase 8,1,2 and it was an absolute torch.
What would get really interesting is to see how many occurred in bad phase mjo but if you go back 5, 7, 10 days was the mjo in the favorable phase that dropped in the cold but we were suppressed then as it relaxed we scored
 
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