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Pattern Jammin January 2023

Well lots of depressing outlooks right now going forward. I decided to look back at 2011-12 for some comparison. Obviously that season did not have anything comparable to the Dec cold front this year, and probably not the NWFS event from last night, but for the SE as a whole this season has been pretty absent of winter, much like that year. Here are some numbers for GSP

Dec 2011

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Max Avg Min
55 42.2 29
63 45.9 32
58 47.3 38
57 48.9 39
56 54.2 53
65 59.6 54
63 57.8 40
52 41.1 32
54 43.1 33
54 44.0 36
47 39.0 32
45 40.8 37
65 51.9 40
66 54.5 44
67 57.7 48
69 59.5 54
58 49.5 38
55 42.4 32
58 45.3 32
55 51.7 43
63 57.0 52
65 62.6 61
64 55.9 47
53 45.4 37
50 43.7 39
55 42.1 33
52 42.5 39
51 41.1 32
55 40.4 27
54 46.3 36
63 47.3 42

Nothing exciting here but not the worst Dec ever.
Here is this past Dec. Really the only difference at all was the 4 day front surrounding Christmas:

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Max Avg Min
55 42.5 32
55 44.0 30
58 53.0 49
57 46.3 38
46 42.6 37
50 46.1 43
63 56.4 50
69 60.4 53
58 52.3 48
50 48.5 46
50 48.9 47
56 49.1 46
48 42.9 37
42 40.8 40
48 41.3 37
52 41.6 33
49 40.8 31
49 37.3 27
49 37.0 25
42 38.5 34
48 40.3 36
48 40.9 36
47 30.4 13
27 17.0 7
37 25.1 14
38 27.8 15
48 35.6 28
54 36.8 24
64 47.1 30
59 50.4 33
56 53.0 51

Here was Jan 2012, again, nothing too exciting either way.

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Max Avg Min
66 51.9 36
48 38.0 26
36 27.7 21
48 34.4 19
59 44.5 30
65 49.4 35
69 55.6 45
56 53.2 49
52 49.4 46
57 52.8 50
62 54.1 49
57 48.9 33
40 32.7 27
49 35.4 23
51 40.5 32
49 39.3 29
54 50.0 38
54 46.2 37
45 37.3 30
50 44.1 35
54 48.5 43
50 44.0 38
45 39.3 37
63 48.6 44
64 51.6 37
63 55.7 52
65 57.6 42
65 46.9 33
54 42.8 30
61 46.3 31
63 50.6 37

And here's so far this Jan

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Max Avg Min
58 52.5 47
71 56.5 48
63 56.4 50
64 59.6 52
63 52.2 42
58 46.3 36
53 45.8 37
50 46.4 43
54 44.2 35
60 44.3 31
58 48.4 35
67 54.8 48
53 46.2 37
43 37.8 33

Literally, the only difference b/w the two is the Dec cold front and the accompanying trace of sleet/snow, with this Jan actually looking a tad warmer. Pretty sobering perspective so far.
 
I’m going to laugh when we trend right into a western Carolina ice storm cad special. One hood thing comes from SER, CAD. And you can bet your bottom dollar that’s where these “torches” are going to go
Yeah and you can already see it with the lower heights consistently showing up over the North Atlantic and SE Canada
 
I’m going to laugh when we trend right into a western Carolina ice storm cad special. One hood thing comes from SER, CAD. And you can bet your bottom dollar that’s where these “torches” are going to go
We've seen it over and over. The funny thing is some on here that really knows what they're talking about knows it too Yet they continue to lead one to believe Winter is over. If I was a betting man I'd bet all I have winter is a long way from over.

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Well lots of depressing outlooks right now going forward. I decided to look back at 2011-12 for some comparison. Obviously that season did not have anything comparable to the Dec cold front this year, and probably not the NWFS event from last night, but for the SE as a whole this season has been pretty absent of winter, much like that year. Here are some numbers for GSP

Dec 2011

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MaxAvgMin
5542.229
6345.932
5847.338
5748.939
5654.253
6559.654
6357.840
5241.132
5443.133
5444.036
4739.032
4540.837
6551.940
6654.544
6757.748
6959.554
5849.538
5542.432
5845.332
5551.743
6357.052
6562.661
6455.947
5345.437
5043.739
5542.133
5242.539
5141.132
5540.427
5446.336
6347.342

Nothing exciting here but not the worst Dec ever.
Here is this past Dec. Really the only difference at all was the 4 day front surrounding Christmas:

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MaxAvgMin
5542.532
5544.030
5853.049
5746.338
4642.637
5046.143
6356.450
6960.453
5852.348
5048.546
5048.947
5649.146
4842.937
4240.840
4841.337
5241.633
4940.831
4937.327
4937.025
4238.534
4840.336
4840.936
4730.413
2717.07
3725.114
3827.815
4835.628
5436.824
6447.130
5950.433
5653.051

Here was Jan 2012, again, nothing too exciting either way.

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MaxAvgMin
6651.936
4838.026
3627.721
4834.419
5944.530
6549.435
6955.645
5653.249
5249.446
5752.850
6254.149
5748.933
4032.727
4935.423
5140.532
4939.329
5450.038
5446.237
4537.330
5044.135
5448.543
5044.038
4539.337
6348.644
6451.637
6355.752
6557.642
6546.933
5442.830
6146.331
6350.637

And here's so far this Jan

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MaxAvgMin
5852.547
7156.548
6356.450
6459.652
6352.242
5846.336
5345.837
5046.443
5444.235
6044.331
5848.435
6754.848
5346.237
4337.833

Literally, the only difference b/w the two is the Dec cold front and the accompanying trace of sleet/snow, with this Jan actually looking a tad warmer. Pretty sobering perspective so far.
I will say the big difference going forward is the lower heights showing over SE Canada and the North Atlantic on the models. That was not there in 2011-12. This along with colder air moving into and building up in Canada opens the door for CAD opportunities
 
952A8B99-3F3A-4495-AF51-3AE69ED08EBD.jpegFew pics from Beech today. Apologies for the cellphone picture, but I guess it was cold enough that you can see these amazing geometric flakes
 

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I will say the big difference going forward is the lower heights showing over SE Canada and the North Atlantic on the models. That was not there in 2011-12. This along with colder air moving into and building up in Canada opens the door for CAD opportunities
11-12 was right up there with one of the worst winter patterns of all time. It did manage a couple week period of split flow in mid Feb that yielded a light snow event across parts of Northern NC, and that was it
 
It is gnarly up at Beech tonight. Howling winds. Sub zero wind chills. Brutal
Perfect time for the hot tub if it's indoors and a liquor drink!
My fam had a house years ago atop Hawksnest. The hot tub was in a glass room. Oh the memories and hangovers........
Have FUN!!
 
11-12 was right up there with one of the worst winter patterns of all time. It did manage a couple week period of split flow in mid Feb that yielded a light snow event across parts of Northern NC, and that was it
The thing that I remember most about that winter besides the lack of snowfall was just how absolutely boring things were for 90% of the time. It was mild yes, but nothing absurdly warm… just basically 6-10 degrees above average everyday with no variability. Most of us were in a deep drought so we didn’t have any rain or severe weather to track. Just an absolutely boring period of weather
 
The thing that I remember most about that winter besides the lack of snowfall was just how absolutely boring things were for 90% of the time. It was mild yes, but nothing absurdly warm… just basically 6-10 degrees above average everyday with no variability. Most of us were in a deep drought so we didn’t have any rain or severe weather to track. Just an absolutely boring period of weather
We had that one outbreak in early March 2012 that included a fairly strong UNWARNED tornado in Charlotte after 2am. We dodged a bullet in that the tornado was not stronger because it hit a high population area in the middle of the night. GSP really messed up that night, in fact I am not sure there was even a severe thunderstorm warning on it. They were paying a little too much attention to weaker storms in the GSP metro.
 
Well we’re definitely going to SER but with cold air being so close to us those high pressures will pack a punch. We’re going to get lots of CAD if these looks continue to hold. We will also get lots of quick 70 degree warm ups out of no where once the highs move away and the potential for severe weather. If we can get moisture timed well with CAD we certainly could iceB4A72AE7-C72F-4C7C-A4F2-180549D3D618.jpeg00947B74-3AD3-4872-8819-55FDEC0873F7.jpeg
 
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