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Tropical Hurricane Dorian

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Dont feel bad when it first formed someone said it would top Irma and i laughed and said no way lol

Or when we laughed at the NAM showing 906 mb near the Bahamas 3 days ago

It hasnt been a good storm to try and forecast

It hasn't been a good storm to try ...
 
Two observations regarding Charleston:

HRWF shows the eye directly over the Charleston bay at 6:00 pm Friday. HIGH TIDE IS 3:00 pm ON FRIDAY. This could be a serious situation. The flooding would be overwhelming. Go to cat2/cat3 surge maps.

HRWF SAYS 6:00 pm Friday. NHC chart says 2:00 pm Thursday just north of that position. 28 hours difference.........I have no idea...


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Gonna try this one more time and hope this is the right layer ...
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If so ... a little ways to go before north ...
 
SUMMARY OF 900 PM EDT...0100 UTC...INFORMATION
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LOCATION...26.6N 77.7W
ABOUT 70 MI...110 KM E OF FREEPORT GRAND BAHAMA ISLAND
ABOUT 150 MI...240 KM E OF WEST PALM BEACH FLORIDA
MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS...185 MPH...295 KM/H
PRESENT MOVEMENT...W OR 270 DEGREES AT 5 MPH...7 KM/H
MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE...915 MB...27.02 INCHES

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Forecaster Latto
 
Right now I’m thinking that Tonight and part of tomorrow will be very critical for how far West Dorian Gets. We are really in a now cast situation which you guys have done an awesome job analyzing Dorian so far. Where the speed of Dorian and how long the high lasts will be extremely critical at this point in time. I think by tomorrow evening we will know if Dorian will hit Florida and or Georgia and how west he will get. Right now whether NC or SC will get anything is still up in the Air until at least Wednesday or maybe earlier. Until then we really need to monitor the development of the Low responsible for bringing Dorian OTS on the models. We also need to pay attention to how strong the GOM and the Atlantic ULH.
 
Sorry Phil wrong layer.... this one is correct and you can see the stirring currents have collapsed, why it's slowing down

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Thanks for posting. Wow, this says it all and shows folks why Dorian can, indeed, slow down, nearly stall, and then take a sharp right turn. But we still need to make sure he will stall before FL!!
 
Timing wise for SC/NC is closer than I realized.....if the GFS is right then the center will be close enough to bring hurricane conditions on shore around Myrtle over to ILM by 9 am Thur morning...thats 3.5 days from now....the Euro is slower by a good 12 hrs though, still by this time tomorrow if the models still show a landfall in NC it will be inside of 60 hrs.....
 
That's getting close. I think we trend toward the HWRF solution of a landfall on Cape Canaveral.
I agree....but the NHC has to make some timing changes to align. HWRF doesn't align in timing for Charleston, so probably downstream too. It has about a 28 hour difference.......
 
Levi has made a new video:


Interesting from Levi. He thinks that the reason the HWRF keeps landfalling him near Canaveral is that it unlike the Euro and GFS is more coupled with the ocean. Because of this, the HWRF induces more cooling of the ocean due to upwelling from Dorian. That cooler water leads to more weakening than would otherwise be assumed. More weakening then makes the storm more shallow and thus brings the mean steering layer down just far enough to make the steering SE to NW rather than SSE to NNW thus pushing inland. So, ironically, a more quickly weakening storm from upwelling may actually be bad rather than good news for central and NE FL, including @pcbjr, because more quickly weakening doesn’t mean it wouldn’t still be a very strong storm (probably still cat 3+) since it is so insanely strong now. Sorry, Phil, don’t shoot the messenger.
 
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I'm starting to think this wobble is more of a move than a wobble. Still moving just south of west and recon confirms this.
Yeah looking at the IR sat over the past several hours it looks like a slightly WSW track
 
I have not caught up, but it (at this point) looks like the OBX may take a good hit after getting back home and looking at recent modeling.
 
SUMMARY OF 1000 PM EDT...0200 UTC...INFORMATION
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LOCATION...26.6N 77.8W
ABOUT 60 MI...95 KM E OF FREEPORT GRAND BAHAMA ISLAND
ABOUT 140 MI...225 KM E OF WEST PALM BEACH FLORIDA
MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS...185 MPH...295 KM/H
PRESENT MOVEMENT...W OR 270 DEGREES AT 5 MPH...7 KM/H
MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE...915 MB...27.02 INCHES
 
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