No kidding, just looking at radar unless it starts to feel that tug it's going NE of PR..... dangI'm somewhat doubtful of that solution at this juncture, Dorian would really have to take a hard left here for several hours to take the circulation over the island but frictional convergence & channeling w/ the terrain of PR could tug it in that direction once Dorian reaches the latitude of PR
I'm somewhat doubtful of that solution at this juncture, Dorian would really have to take a hard left here for several hours to take the circulation over the island but frictional convergence & channeling w/ the terrain of PR could tug it in that direction once Dorian reaches the latitude of PR
It could turn west into PR but right now it's heading for St. Thomas or between that and PR, either way what is this nearly 300 miles east of yesterday's projections? Holy smokes..Thats what I thought to when looking at the radar.
Actually I see-
I agree....a business miss their forecast in this short of term and somebody getting fired. Especially when some of it was driven by placing the current position in the wrong spot on the map.Skeptical of any model being right at this point because they missed so badly in the short term. 3 days ago this was going over the shredder or shooting the gap between PR and hispaniola and now it stands a real chance of missing PR east. This is a pretty big bust in the short range.
Almost looks like an eye on the Puerto Rico radar
https://radar.weather.gov/radar.php?product=N0R&rid=JUA&loop=yes
Almost 2 days ahead of scheduleShe may already be a hurricane or at least very close to it.
Product: Air Force Vortex Message (URNT12 KNHC)
Transmitted: 28th day of the month at 13:37Z
Agency: United States Air Force
Aircraft: Lockheed WC-130J Hercules with reg. number AF99-5309
Storm Number & Year: 05 in 2019
Storm Name: Dorian (flight in the North Atlantic basin)
Mission Number: 9
Observation Number: 09
A. Time of Center Fix: 28th day of the month at 13:00:00Z
B. Center Fix Coordinates: 17.33N 64.18W
B. Center Fix Location: 145 statute miles (233 km) to the ESE (121°) from San Juan, Puerto Rico (U.S.).
C. Minimum Height at Standard Level: 1,445m (4,741ft) at 850mb
D. Minimum Sea Level Pressure: 1002mb (29.59 inHg)
E. Dropsonde Surface Wind at Center: From 345° at 18kts (From the NNW at 21mph)
F. Eye Character: Open in the northwest
G. Eye Shape & Diameter: Circular with a diameter of 18 nautical miles (21 statute miles)
H. Estimated (by SFMR or visually) Maximum Surface Wind Inbound: 32kts (36.8mph)
I. Location & Time of the Estimated Maximum Surface Wind Inbound: 29 nautical miles (33 statute miles) to the WNW (298°) of center fix at 12:49:30Z
J. Maximum Flight Level Wind Inbound: From 15° at 34kts (From the NNE at 39.1mph)
K. Location & Time of the Maximum Flight Level Wind Inbound: 10 nautical miles (12 statute miles) to the W (272°) of center fix at 12:56:00Z
L. Estimated (by SFMR or visually) Maximum Surface Wind Outbound: 51kts (58.7mph)
M. Location & Time of the Estimated Maximum Surface Wind Outbound: 8 nautical miles to the ESE (117°) of center fix at 13:04:00Z
N. Maximum Flight Level Wind Outbound: From 213° at 56kts (From the SSW at 64.4mph)
O. Location & Time of the Maximum Flight Level Wind Outbound: 10 nautical miles (12 statute miles) to the ESE (120°) of center fix at 13:04:30Z
P. Maximum Flight Level Temp & Pressure Altitude Outside Eye: 16°C (61°F) at a pressure alt. of 1,522m (4,993ft)
Q. Maximum Flight Level Temp & Pressure Altitude Inside Eye: 20°C (68°F) at a pressure alt. of 1,527m (5,010ft)
R. Dewpoint Temp (collected at same location as temp inside eye): 16°C (61°F)
R. Sea Surface Temp (collected at same location as temp inside eye): Not Available
S. Fix Determined By: Penetration, Radar, Wind, Pressure and Temperature
S. Fix Level: 850mb
T. Navigational Fix Accuracy: 0.02 nautical miles
T. Meteorological Accuracy: 0.05 nautical miles
Remarks Section:
Maximum Flight Level Wind: 72kts (~ 82.9mph) which was observed 12 nautical miles (14 statute miles) to the NE (45°) from the flight level center at 11:46:30Z
General Note About Vortex Messages:
- Reported winds are usually averaged over a 10 second period. (The National Hurricane Center's advisory wind speeds are the highest expected winds averaged over a 1 minute period.)
AL, 05, 2019082812, 03, OFCL, 3, 175N, 645W, 60, 1000, TS
Latest recon is showing hurricane force winds.141530 1809N 06352W 8429 01605 0156 +158 +158 134042 045 040 013 03
141600 1807N 06353W 8430 01604 0164 +156 +156 135047 051 042 019 00
141630 1806N 06354W 8425 01606 0161 +156 +156 126034 043 041 018 03
141700 1805N 06355W 8433 01597 0162 +153 +153 118033 035 040 016 03
141730 1803N 06356W 8416 01612 0157 +153 //// 118034 036 040 028 05
141800 1802N 06357W 8433 01595 0142 +160 //// 127038 040 035 006 01
141830 1801N 06358W 8429 01598 0141 +162 //// 132044 045 036 005 05
141900 1759N 06359W 8432 01593 0133 +164 //// 132047 048 037 006 01
141930 1758N 06400W 8435 01584 0139 +162 //// 132046 048 037 007 05
142000 1757N 06400W 8433 01584 0139 +161 +161 140047 049 039 008 00
142030 1756N 06401W 8428 01586 0128 +161 //// 143051 052 039 007 05
142100 1755N 06402W 8433 01579 0138 +155 +155 143051 053 038 008 03
142130 1753N 06403W 8429 01583 0139 +160 +160 150049 051 045 041 03
142200 1752N 06404W 8416 01590 0139 +155 +155 152056 057 058 027 00
142230 1751N 06405W 8436 01572 0140 +153 +153 144054 057 046 024 03
142300 1750N 06406W 8434 01571 0131 +159 +159 143052 054 038 010 03
142330 1749N 06406W 8438 01566 0123 +163 +163 149055 057 039 007 00
142400 1748N 06407W 8427 01574 0124 +159 +159 150054 055 040 009 03
142430 1746N 06408W 8436 01562 0119 +156 +156 149060 062 /// /// 03
142500 1745N 06409W 8432 01562 0119 +151 +151 151065 065 047 008 03
Those are flight level winds. Don't let that fool you. The one to the right of that is surface. Also note the 03 at the far right. That means it's flagged. look for 00 for unflagged accurate readings.Latest recon is showing hurricane force winds.
Yep.Am I reading this correct? Does that mean that the 11 AM advisory will be 60 Kts and 1000 MSP?
That's not good.Dorian isn't even gonna come close to Puerto Rico at this rate.
Doesn't bode well for a longer term eitherDorian isn't even gonna come close to Puerto Rico at this rate. This is a pretty colossal short-range forecast bust