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Its an updated version of the current European Model due to be implemented in May.So what exactly is the parallel euro?
Its an updated version of the current European Model due to be implemented in May.So what exactly is the parallel euro?
It’s the updated version of the Euro that replaces current one in a couple monthsSo what exactly is the parallel euro?
I’ve never contemplated the idea of too much snow in Atlanta - and I am not saying I wouldn’t love it - but you’ve got widespread roof collapses if that really ever did happen.Forget the Carolinas, look at metro ATL. 2 feet in downtown Atlanta would shut the city down for a good week if not more.
Did Dec 1989 not get that far up the coast... I seem to remember Hatteras getting a big hit from itThe first time my old man was stationed in NC we lived here for the March 1980 storm. The Virginian Pilot called it the Circus Blizzard because Ringling Brothers was at the Norfolk Scope Arena when it happened. I don’t think they have had one since then. We moved summer of 1980 and came back October of 1987. I know they haven’t had anything like since since 1987. So March 1980 was my once in a lifetime. Hopefully my kids (and all kids) can get one of these.
January 9-11,2011 shut the city down an entire week. I can only imagine the aftermath effects of 2ft.Forget the Carolinas, look at metro ATL. 2 feet in downtown Atlanta would shut the city down for a good week if not more.
So one bad operational model trended to another bad operational model more than 6 days out.Icon trended to gfs ugh oh
January 9-11,2011 shut the city down an entire week. I can only imagine the aftermath effects of 2ft.
welcome back LarryFrom Maxar this morning:
“The pattern over next two weeks is expected to be
among the coldest we’ve seen in a while, as rounds
of arctic air plunge into the US. The total of 538.74
GWHDDs forecast for the 1-15 Day period would be
the coldest 15-Day period since Dec 28-Jan 11, 2017-18 and the coldest solely in February since Feb 14-28, 2015. The map on right shows the upper air
pattern for the next two weeks, featuring strong ridging over the Arctic (-AO), North Atlantic (-NAO), and Pacific (-EPO/WPO), a blocking triumvirate supportive of cross-polar flow. Looking at analogs for this pattern via CPC for Day 8, eight of the ten analogs are centered around anomalously cold 6-10 Day periods, but only one (Jan 25-29, 1961 with 217.80 GWHDDs) exceeds our current 6-10 Day forecast of 206.18, perhaps suggesting a downside risk to our 6-10 Day GWHDD forecast based on similar historical patterns. Meanwhile, the arctic nature of the upcoming chill is illustrated by the backward trajectory maps on left. These maps via NOAA ARL are designed for dispersion of particles, but are also helpful in determining the origin of air masses. The Day 8 map shows that the air coming into Chicago and New York is of Arctic origins, although the more westerly trajectory into New York gives more opportunity for the air mass to moderate compared to Chicago. Meanwhile, Dallas may have more of a hybrid air mass in the middle of the 6-10 Day before becoming more directly Arctic at the end of the period. This may suggest that Day 10 could be colder than Day 8 in Dallas, despite our forecast and the models suggesting the contrary.”
And this:
“The 6-10 Day forecast totals 206.2
GWHDDs, which is significantly colder than normal (10-year is
140.3; 30-year is 142.3) and would rank record coldest for the
period back to 1950.”
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My comments:
All GWHDD amounts are for the US weighted by population. So, for that measure, Maxar forecast for Feb 10-14th is record coldest for the US. The Midwest is the heart of the coldest anomalies rather than the SE thus allowing for the chance for a major winter storm in parts of the SE at the bottom of the extreme cold.
Thank you for posting this. I’ve started reading them, but wasn’t sure that it was allowed. The seem to really know their stuffFrom Maxar this morning:
“The pattern over next two weeks is expected to be
among the coldest we’ve seen in a while, as rounds
of arctic air plunge into the US. The total of 538.74
GWHDDs forecast for the 1-15 Day period would be
the coldest 15-Day period since Dec 28-Jan 11, 2017-18 and the coldest solely in February since Feb 14-28, 2015. The map on right shows the upper air
pattern for the next two weeks, featuring strong ridging over the Arctic (-AO), North Atlantic (-NAO), and Pacific (-EPO/WPO), a blocking triumvirate supportive of cross-polar flow. Looking at analogs for this pattern via CPC for Day 8, eight of the ten analogs are centered around anomalously cold 6-10 Day periods, but only one (Jan 25-29, 1961 with 217.80 GWHDDs) exceeds our current 6-10 Day forecast of 206.18, perhaps suggesting a downside risk to our 6-10 Day GWHDD forecast based on similar historical patterns. Meanwhile, the arctic nature of the upcoming chill is illustrated by the backward trajectory maps on left. These maps via NOAA ARL are designed for dispersion of particles, but are also helpful in determining the origin of air masses. The Day 8 map shows that the air coming into Chicago and New York is of Arctic origins, although the more westerly trajectory into New York gives more opportunity for the air mass to moderate compared to Chicago. Meanwhile, Dallas may have more of a hybrid air mass in the middle of the 6-10 Day before becoming more directly Arctic at the end of the period. This may suggest that Day 10 could be colder than Day 8 in Dallas, despite our forecast and the models suggesting the contrary.”
And this:
“The 6-10 Day forecast totals 206.2
GWHDDs, which is significantly colder than normal (10-year is
140.3; 30-year is 142.3) and would rank record coldest for the
period back to 1950.”
—————————
My comments:
All GWHDD amounts are for the US weighted by population. So, for that measure, Maxar forecast for Feb 10-14th is record coldest for the US. The Midwest is the heart of the coldest anomalies rather than the SE thus allowing for the chance for a major winter storm in parts of the SE at the bottom of the extreme cold.
Looks like the PV is stronger and not as elongated which is helping improve the pacific ridging a bit. Let's see where it goes.GFS imo looks better but it’s so bouncy View attachment 71631
Hang on i might be wrongI dont believe 12z gfs gonna work. May be a trend
I wouldn't call anything a trend right now. Nothing is trending to anything. You all saw how quick we flipped back to a wintry scenario last night? That's how quickly things are switching back and forth. We might not know anything as far as trends until Monday or Tuesday.So one bad operational model trended to another bad operational model more than 6 days out.
6z and 0z were far worse. It's a step in the right direction at least.
6z and 0z were far worse. It's a step in the right direction at least.
both icon and gfs continue a major ice storm for midsouth area. i could care less about the ice