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Pattern February Discussion Part II

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Is next winter predicted to be ENSO neutral? It can't be as bad as this year...right?

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Does this winter worry anyone about climate change?

It's certainly alarming the general public.


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tennessee storm said:
I really think there is some merit to that... word is... even up in the artic region... polar bears were spotted running around naked...
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Traditionally we get extended cold when the arctic is warm but rn we're both warm.


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tennessee storm said:
I really think there is some merit to that... word is... even up in the artic region... polar bears were spotted running around naked...
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tennessee storm said:
I really think there is some merit to that... word is... even up in the artic region... polar bears were spotted running around naked...
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sounds like a clip from Blazing Saddles :p
 
bouncycorn said:
Does this winter worry anyone about climate change?

It's certainly alarming the general public.


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I'm worried about the very slowly rising sea level not too many miles from me (spring tidal flooding of the road to the beach is so much more frequent now vs a few decades back) that's very likely due to warming oceans that are from a warmer globe, but that's, of course, for another thread.

Otoh, 1889-90 was about 2 degrees warmer than this one at ATL and that was with a supposedly colder station downtown (not yet a big city then with only 65K people) vs the current warm influences of the airport vs surrounding areas.

Interestingly, the 2 warmest ATL winters are from the late 1800's and the 3rd warmest (for now though 2016-7 could overtake it) was 85 years ago!

Edited for typo. Warmest winter was 1889-90, not 1879-80.
 
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GaWx said:
I'm worried about the very slowly rising sea level not too many miles from me (spring tidal flooding of the road to the beach is so much more frequent now vs a few decades back) that's very likely due to warming oceans that are from a warmer globe, but that's, of course, for another thread.

Otoh, 1879-80 was about 2 degrees warmer than this one at ATL and that was with a supposedly colder station downtown (not yet a big city then with only 37K people) vs the current warm influences of the airport vs surrounding areas.
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and I get beachfront property in Gainesville (???) :confused:
I moved here from JAX years and years ago, just to avoid the tourists and golfers!
 
GaWx said:
I'm worried about the very slowly rising sea level not too many miles from me (spring tidal flooding of the road to the beach is so much more frequent now vs a few decades back) that's very likely due to warming oceans that are from a warmer globe, but that's, of course, for another thread.

Otoh, 1879-80 was about 2 degrees warmer than this one at ATL and that was with a supposedly colder station downtown (not yet a big city then with only 37K people) vs the current warm influences of the airport vs surrounding areas.
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That's true. I wish there were more hours in the day. I'd like to go through each year from like 1880 and present and summarize the weather and key details for each year. Put it in a notebook or binder and study it.


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bouncycorn said:
That's true. I wish there were more hours in the day. I'd like to go through each year from like 1880 and present and summarize the weather and key details for each year. Put it in a notebook or binder and study it.


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In fact, I'm going to do that. It'll take a while but it's worth it.


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SD said:
Welp I'm all in on the 18z gfs #1pixelftw
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Aaaaaaaand....it still misses me by 5 miles. :(
 
bouncycorn said:
In fact, I'm going to do that. It'll take a while but it's worth it.


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Note my typo. I meant 1889-90, not 1879-80, for the winter that was about 2 warmer than the current one. Also, the ATL pop had then risen to near 65K. 1879-80 is currently 2nd warmest. I corrected that post.
 
Nice heavy shower coming through.
 
bouncycorn said:
In fact, I'm going to do that. It'll take a while but it's worth it.


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I strongly recommend you go to the downtown library to view old ATL newspapers on microfilm. That's how I learned a lot about ATL wx history a number of years ago though it was extremely time comsuming. I was there many hours on a good number of days (several weeks worth of days easily but not all consecutive days as that would drive most folks totally batsheet). I was fascinated by the daily wx forecasts and how well they verified. I also loved reading the articles after a winter storm.
 
tennessee storm said:
im leaning on a weak nino... see how it plays out during the year
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Here's to hoping 2017-18 is much colder than this winter. 1879-80 was similarly warm to 2016-7 and was also a weak La Niña. Per Webber's table, 1880-1 was a weak El Niño like I also hope we have next winter. The winter of 1880-1 was 10 colder and ATL (as well as many others in the SE) had a major winter storm.
 
SD said:
Got 2 here looks like a nice one headed your way again

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Gonna miss 5 miles to my south, it looks like.
 
ForsythSnow said:
Lol that's the thing you got to like about thunderstorms, they develop and surprise you suddenly lots of times, unlike snow! Had some light rain here earlier, but nothing heavy.
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Lol yeah that's true. We never get surprised by snow, like in a positive way anymore. So sad!
 
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